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wellington womble



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PostPosted: Mon Jul 23, 12 12:19 pm    Post subject: Anyone still knitting? I need some help.... Reply with quote    

I know it's too hot to knit, but this is on a deadline.

I'm knitting a sock pattern where the top of the foot is in double rib. I don't like it, and want to just knit it in stockinette. How many stitches will I need to decrease to compensate for not having the pulling in of the double rib?

Am I making any sense?

gil
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PostPosted: Mon Jul 23, 12 12:40 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote    

Double rib is stretchier than stocking stitch. I wouldn't decrease any sts if I were going to knit all the foot as stocking st.

How many sts on the sole ? Seems to be roughly standard that sole and instep are the same number of sts.

mochyn



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PostPosted: Mon Jul 23, 12 12:53 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote    

If you use stocking stitch the sock won't stay up as well as with rib. I wouldn't change the number of stitches but use a smaller needle for the 'rib' section.

Woodburner



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PostPosted: Mon Jul 23, 12 1:36 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote    

If stockinette is what I think it is: *1row k to end 1r p to end* repeat, it will roll itself up, or rather down your ankle. You could do single rib, but personally I find that even more of pita, and double looks nicer anyway.

Luath



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PostPosted: Mon Jul 23, 12 7:48 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote    

As I understand WW's post, it's the instep that is in double rib; I agree with her, I don't like it either, all mine are done in stocking stitch. Done in rib just make for a closer fitting sock.The number of stitches for the instep should be double what is on each of the other needles - eg 15 sts on first needle, 30 on second needle (instep) and 15 on the third needle. Therefore should be no need to decrease at all. I understand from the post too, that the top part, ie the cuff is in rib? Thus it will stay up. Hope I'e got that right and it helps

(ps, I never stop knitting lol )

wellington womble



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PostPosted: Mon Jul 23, 12 10:20 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote    

Luath is right, it's the instep, not the cuff (which is in double rib and I have knitted it in double rib). But the pattern has the instep continue in double rib (although not the sole) which I don't like. Fit is not a major issue and I don't think stretch will be either. Rolling edges certainly wont be. A baggy foot isn't a problem for comfort, but it will look better if it's not too baggy. I don't mind socks that are all rib, it's just that this particular pattern would look better in stocking stitch in my opinion.

I'd post a picture, but it's stealth knitting. I will post later, or pm anyone who really can't bear the susupense!

I'm still turning the heel. I'll see how many stitches there are when I get to the instep bit.

The point (which I am making very badly) is that the double rib will pull the knitting in, so if I do it in stocking stitch, I will need to do less stitches in order to pull the knitting in to the same dimensions. Oh, why aren't there proper words for all this?

Apparently, I never stop knitting either. Although this project is so lovely, I am going to be very sad when its finished.

mochyn



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PostPosted: Tue Jul 24, 12 8:02 am    Post subject: Reply with quote    

Aah: Now I get you. Hmm. I'd say don't make any alterations. Knit until you're about halfway down the foot then do the ninja sock of death and see how it fits.

Luath



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PostPosted: Tue Jul 24, 12 10:58 am    Post subject: Reply with quote    

Yes, keep the same number of stitches.

gil
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PostPosted: Tue Jul 24, 12 11:00 am    Post subject: Reply with quote    

That's what I was trying to say.

wellington womble



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PostPosted: Tue Jul 24, 12 1:16 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote    

mochyn wrote:
Aah: Now I get you. Hmm. I'd say don't make any alterations. Knit until you're about halfway down the foot then do the ninja sock of death and see how it fits.


Can't - it's not even remotely my size! I did keep them almost the same - just decreased an extra couple. I'll finish this one and see how it looks. I don't think it's crucial either way, to be honest. I'll post pics when I done. I'm very pleased with how it's going.

Thanks for all the advice - sorry about the rubbish explaining.

Midland Spinner



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PostPosted: Tue Jul 24, 12 2:52 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote    

The number of stitches around the foot after the gusset is normally the same number as around the ankle just above the heel.

If your pattern has allowed for the pulling in of the ribbing it should be fairly easy to spot.

I'd just keep decreasing as set until you have the same number of stitches as the ankle (unless the recipient has wide feet of course!)

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