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KatP



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PostPosted: Tue Oct 11, 16 8:45 am    Post subject: Cider question  Reply with quote    

I have a lot of apples, so planning on trying a batch or two of cider this autumn. A previous attempt at apple wine was not terribly successful, so looking for advice.

Apple varieties are unknown (the trees were here when I moved in), but suspect they are cooking apples based on taste. One is most likely a bramley or similar, the other is an odd one - shape a bit like golden delicious (such a poorly named apple imo!) but has a floury texture and is quite sharp.

Juice to be extracted using a juicer.

Thoughts and suggestions?
Thank you

tahir



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PostPosted: Tue Oct 11, 16 9:09 am    Post subject: Reply with quote    

Never made cider, but people do use dessert and cooking apples to make it. As for Golden Delicious, it's very well named, if you let it ripen nicely on the tree.

sean
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PostPosted: Tue Oct 11, 16 9:22 am    Post subject: Reply with quote    

Juice apples, put juice in fermentation bin, pitch in yeast, when it calms down a bit put it in demijohns with air locks on. Leave for as long as it takes.

dpack



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PostPosted: Tue Oct 11, 16 10:35 am    Post subject: Reply with quote    

what sean said.

plus try to get a mix of sweet desert and cookers in each batch, all cookers can be rather acid even if you mature the cider after racking and as fresh (rough style) all cookers isnít very nice.

KatP



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PostPosted: Tue Oct 11, 16 12:28 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote    

Thanks folks.

Unfortunately the one definitely a desert apple tree has already had all its (5 or so) apples pinched by the voracious blackbirds when I wasn't looking. A shame, as the apples from it are delicious. Giving it a good prune this year (none of the trees have been pruned for I don't know how many years) so hopefully will get a better crop next year.
The odd tree might be a desert variety, the jury is still out. Have never seen apples the shape of these before.

dpack



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PostPosted: Tue Oct 11, 16 12:59 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote    

prune well can improve cropping over a few years (plenty of online how to stuff )

prune badly ,just dont

as to id if the trees are less than 50 yrs old it is fairly easy as there are limited choices with good online guides etc but if they are ancient it can be really tricky in a "which of those 7000 types is it then?"

id linky basic types

Treacodactyl
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PostPosted: Tue Oct 11, 16 6:01 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote    

If the juice is sharp then the cider will be very dry and sharp as well as all the sugar has fermented. I'd just try a small batch. If it turns out to be tooooo sharp then you can cut the cider with plain apple juice. Anyone lse with any spare eating apples?

yummersetter



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PostPosted: Wed Oct 12, 16 9:26 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote    

just a few thousand here

tahir



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PostPosted: Wed Oct 12, 16 9:53 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote    

yummersetter wrote:
just a few thousand here


You don't want to know how many I've blinking got!

dpack



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PostPosted: Wed Oct 12, 16 11:30 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote    

i can think of several tons around and about here.

Lorrainelovesplants



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PostPosted: Thu Oct 13, 16 9:59 am    Post subject: Reply with quote    

Juice the apples.
Bramley will make it thin and sharp. If you can mix in a lot of dessert apples it will be more balanced. Ive made delicious cider with dessert apples alone.
Small scale use demijohns.
You can buy a cider yeast off ebay - just small packets. Fill demijohns to the shoulders with juice, let ferment with just a plug of cotton wool for a few days. When it starts to slow down then fit an airlock.
Should finish fermenting by end Nov. Taste it, if its still prickly then let it sit for a few days more.
Syphon into sterile demijohn and top up to the very top with water.
Mature like this for at least 3 months before drinking.

KatP



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PostPosted: Thu Oct 13, 16 4:34 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote    

Was planning on just trying a demijohn to begin with.

No dessert apples here. North East Aberdeenshire if anyone wants t send me some!
Thank you very much for that link dpack! It looks like being a Golden Spire (which I had never heard of), apparently a cider apple as well as a cooker, bonus!

Can't be any harder than mead (which is what I mostly make), right?!

KatP



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PostPosted: Thu Oct 13, 16 4:37 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote    

Oh, and as to pruning, I used t help dad prune his trees, and grans. And have seen first hand how bad pruning can ruin an apple tree (dad got a bloke to do his about 3 years ago, he pretty much pollarded them )

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