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Tavascarow



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PostPosted: Tue Jul 14, 15 9:26 pm    Post subject: Mozzila block flash due to security breaches. Reply with quote
    

& facebook security hope it dies completely.
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vegplot



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PostPosted: Tue Jul 14, 15 9:35 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote
    

Flash is a security nightmare. It needed to be killed off years ago.

gz



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PostPosted: Wed Jul 15, 15 8:43 am    Post subject: Reply with quote
    

trouble is, it is used for videos on u-tube, fb etc....how else is one supposed to access these?

sean
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PostPosted: Wed Jul 15, 15 8:57 am    Post subject: Reply with quote
    

You can still allow it on a site-by-site basis. They've just set the default to barring it.

dpack



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PostPosted: Wed Jul 15, 15 9:26 am    Post subject: Reply with quote
    

having just had a quick look for alternatives the ones that are flash comparable to adobe flash seem to be flash based.

silverlight might work for some folk but it seems very poor on my rig (vista and quite a few security programs and tidyness apps ) by poor i mean terrible as it causes constant crashes.

for embeded youtube via a browser rather than direct it seems an alternative is very over due.

vegplot



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PostPosted: Wed Jul 15, 15 10:50 am    Post subject: Reply with quote
    

gz wrote:
trouble is, it is used for videos on u-tube, fb etc....how else is one supposed to access these?


You don't need Flash if you have a browser capable of showing HTML 5.

https://www.youtube.com/html5

dpack



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PostPosted: Wed Jul 15, 15 11:00 am    Post subject: Reply with quote
    

i still have a flash icon but it is now set to html5

thanks

joanne



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PostPosted: Wed Jul 15, 15 11:02 am    Post subject: Reply with quote
    

The latest version of Flash (209) resolves these issues, we had a minor panic this morning about this very thing

dpack



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PostPosted: Wed Jul 15, 15 12:06 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote
    

i half suspect that the vulnerabilities of flash can only be exploited if general security is a bit slack.between spy block,avast pro,defender,ghosty,script blocker ,adblock ,malaware and avoiding the most "popular"themes the risk is fairly low(i hope)

using html5 has a good reputation so far

i spose such matters require adjustments most of which that lot will do before i know there was a risk

ps i still feel the need to use linux + a few clever filters and onion flavored stuff etc if im looking for the content of super injunctions etc etc and even that can take a bit of a zapping if the SI or whatever has high level backing.

most folk dont go to those lengths and get a problem from using "celebrity news",free software "specialist sites" etc etc .

back in the 1990's it was easy and moderately safe to visit almost anything with a phone line and pooter in the building

gz



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PostPosted: Fri Jul 17, 15 10:09 am    Post subject: Reply with quote
    

I talked to a friend who is a security computer specialist for a council....he suggested Silverlight, and thought that some systems were going to stop supporting flash...mainly because of its security problems

dpack



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PostPosted: Fri Jul 17, 15 10:31 am    Post subject: Reply with quote
    

if your pooter still works after installing silverlight (it comes bundled with ms update stuff or it can be had a standalone download) it might be an option,for me it conflicts with both my os set up and with my multi layer security stuff.

it took me a few hours to discover why the thing was crashing and silverlight is now forbidden from installing itself

i suspect it works well on mainframe/workstation rigs and perhaps in modern ms os's with simple security stuff

it nearly replaced my pooter until i uninstalled it and everything worked properly again.

joanne



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PostPosted: Fri Jul 17, 15 10:31 am    Post subject: Reply with quote
    

gz wrote:
I talked to a friend who is a security computer specialist for a council....he suggested Silverlight, and thought that some systems were going to stop supporting flash...mainly because of its security problems


Silverlight isn't in anyway the same as Flash, it's a Microsoft proprietary product, it does a similar thing to Flash but it's not necessary anymore as we now have HTML5 and rich media built into the standard as native.

The main issue is that there are lots of Rich clients out there that use flash particularly in the financial industry and it's going to take time for it to die a death.

dpack



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PostPosted: Fri Jul 17, 15 10:50 am    Post subject: Reply with quote
    

a bit like using a poundland lock to secure the bank vault

gz



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PostPosted: Sat Jul 18, 15 9:36 am    Post subject: Reply with quote
    

joanne wrote:
gz wrote:
I talked to a friend who is a security computer specialist for a council....he suggested Silverlight, and thought that some systems were going to stop supporting flash...mainly because of its security problems


Silverlight isn't in anyway the same as Flash, it's a Microsoft proprietary product, it does a similar thing to Flash but it's not necessary anymore as we now have HTML5 and rich media built into the standard as native.

The main issue is that there are lots of Rich clients out there that use flash particularly in the financial industry and it's going to take time for it to die a death.


So not using Microsoft, Silverlight wouldn't be an option for meanyway

vegplot



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PostPosted: Sat Jul 18, 15 11:23 am    Post subject: Reply with quote
    

gz wrote:
joanne wrote:
gz wrote:
I talked to a friend who is a security computer specialist for a council....he suggested Silverlight, and thought that some systems were going to stop supporting flash...mainly because of its security problems


Silverlight isn't in anyway the same as Flash, it's a Microsoft proprietary product, it does a similar thing to Flash but it's not necessary anymore as we now have HTML5 and rich media built into the standard as native.

The main issue is that there are lots of Rich clients out there that use flash particularly in the financial industry and it's going to take time for it to die a death.


So not using Microsoft, Silverlight wouldn't be an option for meanyway


A modern mainstream browser should be all that you need.

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