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cab



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PostPosted: Tue Feb 01, 05 3:48 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote
    

jema wrote:

What would you say to sultanas instead? they are very very cheap in comparison.

jema


They add body, but they bring a more distinctive flavour; I often find that if I use sultanas or raisins I can taste them in the wine. I'd be cautious; besides, the rest of your ingredients (if you're using sugar rather than honey) are so very cheap anyway.

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PostPosted: Tue Feb 01, 05 4:00 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote
    

Cab wrote:
jema wrote:

What would you say to sultanas instead? they are very very cheap in comparison.

jema


They add body, but they bring a more distinctive flavour; I often find that if I use sultanas or raisins I can taste them in the wine. I'd be cautious; besides, the rest of your ingredients (if you're using sugar rather than honey) are so very cheap anyway.


Good point, I think i'd want neutral flavour with the orange blossom. I reckon i'll get this on Thursday. With my carrot whiskey I have only done 3 gallons, I figure the orange may as well be the full 5

It is quite good to be getting slowly back into these types of wines

The beaverdale kits I used to build the cellar are over £30 each, and the Elderberry in a way is a lot more expensive than that.

I will probably see what he has in stock by way of dried fruit for a decent batch of red at the same time

jema

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PostPosted: Tue Feb 01, 05 4:04 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote
    

jema wrote:


Good point, I think i'd want neutral flavour with the orange blossom. I reckon i'll get this on Thursday. With my carrot whiskey I have only done 3 gallons, I figure the orange may as well be the full 5


You're not tempted to try a small batch before embarking on a full thirty bottles of something you might not like?

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It is quite good to be getting slowly back into these types of wines

The beaverdale kits I used to build the cellar are over £30 each, and the Elderberry in a way is a lot more expensive than that.

I will probably see what he has in stock by way of dried fruit for a decent batch of red at the same time

jema


The elderberry is more expensive? How so? Presumably the fruit is free, then there's what, two and a half or three pounds of sugar per gallon, a bit of tannin and acid... How do you figure it costs more?

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PostPosted: Thu Feb 03, 05 12:46 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote
    

Cab wrote:
jema wrote:


Good point, I think i'd want neutral flavour with the orange blossom. I reckon i'll get this on Thursday. With my carrot whiskey I have only done 3 gallons, I figure the orange may as well be the full 5


You're not tempted to try a small batch before embarking on a full thirty bottles of something you might not like?

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It is quite good to be getting slowly back into these types of wines

The beaverdale kits I used to build the cellar are over £30 each, and the Elderberry in a way is a lot more expensive than that.

I will probably see what he has in stock by way of dried fruit for a decent batch of red at the same time

jema


The elderberry is more expensive? How so? Presumably the fruit is free, then there's what, two and a half or three pounds of sugar per gallon, a bit of tannin and acid... How do you figure it costs more?


My attitude is that I'd rather have 5 gallons of wine I am not too keen on, than 1 gallon that makes me kick myself for not having put more on.
As such I have slapped on 5 gallons slightely modifed orange blossom, albeit with some out of date dried blossom I got for free.

I also got 1kg of dried Elderberry whihc is a pretty boring choice, but I do like Elderberry wine

I figure the Elderberry wine to be "expensive" in the sense that whilst a certain amount of foraging and wine making is enjoyable. It is very time consuming and that cannot be totally ignored.

jema

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PostPosted: Wed Feb 09, 05 3:58 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote
    

Just racked my orange blossom from bucket to fermenter.

Seems like it should be an inoffensive little summer wine

jema

cab



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PostPosted: Wed Feb 09, 05 4:10 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote
    

Made with sugar rather than honey, it's certainly inoffensive, but a little light. I like it with the extra body. I'd reccomend that it'll be good if well chilled in summer.

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PostPosted: Wed Feb 09, 05 4:32 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote
    

Birch sap wine? Although the sap will start to rise at different times depending upon your latitude.

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PostPosted: Wed Feb 09, 05 4:33 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote
    

I did add grape juice to give it some body

Looking for a more interesting Country wine to make now.

Though all 7 of my fermenters are full at the moment

4 fermenting, 3 clearing. As I drift more into Country wine mode, I guess I am going to end up with a lot more in the clearing phase, so probably with have to get a couple more

jema

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PostPosted: Wed Feb 09, 05 4:52 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote
    

Lot of gorse in flower at the moment, anyone tried it ? and have your fingers healed up ?

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PostPosted: Wed Feb 09, 05 4:55 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote
    

We came across a gorse bush in flower the other day - actually, the first time I'd got close enough to one to smell it. It smells luuuuurvely.

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PostPosted: Wed Feb 09, 05 5:01 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote
    

jema wrote:
I did add grape juice to give it some body

Looking for a more interesting Country wine to make now.

Though all 7 of my fermenters are full at the moment

4 fermenting, 3 clearing. As I drift more into Country wine mode, I guess I am going to end up with a lot more in the clearing phase, so probably with have to get a couple more

jema


Grape juice ought to sort it.

How long things clear with a country wine really depends; flower wines can clear in a snap. Coltsfoot is really fast. Mint takes a while. Bit of pectinase and plum goes fast too. But yes, you need more fermenters. Will the other half let you?

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PostPosted: Wed Feb 09, 05 5:04 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote
    

Jonnyboy wrote:
Birch sap wine? Although the sap will start to rise at different times depending upon your latitude.


I've never had the nerve to tap a birch tree. If I had my own I'd be tempted.

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PostPosted: Wed Feb 09, 05 5:06 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote
    

Blacksmith wrote:
Lot of gorse in flower at the moment, anyone tried it ? and have your fingers healed up ?


Tried it; didn't really take to gorse wine, although I do plan to try again some time. Not a great deal of it around here though

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PostPosted: Wed Feb 09, 05 5:51 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote
    

Cab wrote:
But yes, you need more fermenters. Will the other half let you?


Well she's keen enough on drinking it


jema

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PostPosted: Wed Feb 09, 05 7:00 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote
    

jema wrote:
Well she's keen enough on drinking it


You and I both know that having a better half keen on the fruits of your hobby does not mean you have carte blanche to get as much kit in for it as you'd like

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