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Nat S
Joined: 15 Aug 2008
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Location: York
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 Posted: Sun Nov 01, 09 1:23 pm Post subject: Goat butter goaty taste |
 
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The only goat products I've had were the commercial stuff from st.helens and there is a definate goaty taste. In the milk, cream and cheese I don't mind that at all, even quite like it  BUT - I hate making something with the butter, and then *everything* tastes goaty - goaty toast and jam, goaty biscuits, goaty pastry....
I have been told many times that FRESH goat's milk doesn't taste too goaty - what about the butter? Anybody make their own and managed to get ungoaty toast and jam?   |
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RichardW
Joined: 24 Aug 2006
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Location: Llyn Peninsular North Wales
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Often what is described as a "goaty" taste is the silage they have been fed on. Bought stuff nearly always taste of it. Home made does not (as you wont be feeding silage). |
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wellington womble
Joined: 08 Nov 2004
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Location: Bucks
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I think Nanny said that fresh goats milk doesn't taste goaty. It might be worth a search, because I'm fairly sure I wouldn't have read it anywhere else! I'm with you on the bought stuff though  |
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Nat S
Joined: 15 Aug 2008
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Location: York
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| Posted: Sun Nov 01, 09 3:21 pm Post subject: |
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| RichardW wrote: |
| Often what is described as a "goaty" taste is the silage they have been fed on. Bought stuff nearly always taste of it. Home made does not (as you wont be feeding silage). |
I probably would! |
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RichardW
Joined: 24 Aug 2006
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Location: Llyn Peninsular North Wales
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Ah yeh dint really look at who had posted lol. |
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LynneA
Joined: 25 Oct 2006
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Location: London N21
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I LIKE that "goaty" taste and smell. |
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Nat S
Joined: 15 Aug 2008
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Location: York
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| Posted: Sun Nov 01, 09 4:56 pm Post subject: |
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| LynneA wrote: |
| I LIKE that "goaty" taste and smell. |
so do i - but not in absolutely everything, especially things I bake! |
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VSS
Joined: 14 Jan 2007
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Location: Llyn Peninsula, North Wales
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Some goats genetically produce more lipase in their milk than others. High lipase milks are more prone to aquire taints, and to suffer from spontaneous rancidity.
This is one reason why some people's goat's milk may taste more goaty than others.
High dry matter silage won't affect the flavour, and will result in higher yields than hay feeding.
Flavour also changes during a lactation, due to changes in milk composition. |
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wellington womble
Joined: 08 Nov 2004
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| Posted: Sun Nov 01, 09 7:12 pm Post subject: |
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| Ixy wrote: |
| LynneA wrote: |
| I LIKE that "goaty" taste and smell. |
so do i - but not in absolutely everything, especially things I bake! |
I love it in goat's cheese, but not in butter or milk. |
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arvo
Joined: 04 Dec 2006
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Location: Somerset
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| VSS wrote: |
spontaneous rancidity.
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If I ever start a punk band that's what I'm going to call it.
On a thread related note though, when we stayed at Faithmead's we had lots of her goats milk and that wasn't goaty at all. Dunno what she was feeding them on though. |
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mountain goat chick
Joined: 30 Oct 2009
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I like the goatiness of the milk too, but I think I am immune to it now and it just seems normal, even in sauces and custard.
I have heard that it is more goaty if you have billies around, especially in the Autumn, but I haven't noticed it yet.
I haven't progressed to making butter yet (maybe a project for the long winter nights) so can't comment on that. Do cakes turn out a different colour if you use goat's butter? Or is it the eggs that make them yellow?  |
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chicken feed
Joined: 27 Aug 2009
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 your right this time of year the milk is more tainted in the earlier part of the year goats milk just tastes richer with a sweet hint i grew up on goats milk and have not notied a goat taste to butter of cheese just a rich taste. but it has to be said as in all animal products meat,milk eggs you get out what you put in and premium food for the animals produces premium products. |
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Faithmead
Joined: 07 Mar 2008
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Location: Carmarthenshire/Pembrokeshire border
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| Posted: Sun Nov 01, 09 9:02 pm Post subject: |
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| arvo wrote: |
| VSS wrote: |
spontaneous rancidity.
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If I ever start a punk band that's what I'm going to call it.
On a thread related note though, when we stayed at Faithmead's we had lots of her goats milk and that wasn't goaty at all. Dunno what she was feeding them on though. |
 Gorgeous stuff innit At this time of year they're on hay and goat mix, but before long, they'll be on haylage - which they go MAD over....and it still doesn't affect the milk or cheese |
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Nat S
Joined: 15 Aug 2008
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Location: York
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| Posted: Sun Nov 01, 09 10:33 pm Post subject: |
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| chicken feed wrote: |
| you get out what you put in and premium food for the animals produces premium products. |
No better food than grass and herbage IMO 
I'm sticking with sheep I think - 6-9% butterfat with protein to match! Sheep rule, goats drool |
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Pel
Joined: 29 Mar 2008
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Location: Nr Aberaeron, Ceredigion
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I thought it was also due to how quickly you cool it down when pasturising it, if you milked into a bucket that was kept under 5 degrees C and then put it in the fridge you wouldnt get the taste, however if you were to then pasturise it and when bringing back down to below 5'C your werent quick enough the goaty taste appeared. Well thats what i got told by someone who produced goats milk to sell to shops.
How true is that? All i know is that their goats milk tasted like milk (used to buy from the shop), rather than esscene of goat, unlike a lot of the commerical goat milk producers that you see in supermarkets. |
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