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Chez



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PostPosted: Thu Nov 12, 09 8:03 pm    Post subject: e reader or mini pc? Reply with quote    

I want to buy myself a present. I have recently (thanks to a throw-away comment Bebo made) found out that e readers exist. I read a *lot* and you can get loads of books for them that take up no space at all.

Anyone know anything about them? And would it make sense to get a mini pc instead?

I am googling ... but just thought I'd ask

Bebo



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PostPosted: Thu Nov 12, 09 8:06 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote    

I've got a Sony ebook reader. It's much lighter than a mini-pc and lighter than some paperbacks. No backlight so the screen doesn;t make your eyes ache the way a PC screen can. The battery also lasts for ages (I charge mine up every couple of weeks and probably get through around 800 pages between charges).

Not as versatile as a mini-pc though (and bloody pricey for what it is).

vegplot



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PostPosted: Thu Nov 12, 09 8:07 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote    

Don't know about ereaders but my Dell 10 is very good. Probably doesn't make a good ereader due to the screen proportions though.

Nick



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PostPosted: Thu Nov 12, 09 8:09 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote    

I can also do this on my Blackberry, although it's far from a pleasant experience. It's much better on the iPhone, and possibly with a bigger Blackberry screen it would be better. HOWEVER, you'll never be able to take them into the bath.

Waterstones has them in store so you can go play.

Buy real books, and blow the cash on something else.

Chez



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PostPosted: Thu Nov 12, 09 8:11 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote    

Hmm. I might go and have a look in Waterstones in Taunton. Thank you, Nick.

bagpuss
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PostPosted: Thu Nov 12, 09 8:17 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote    

You can now get the Kindle in the UK

You might want to look at comparisons

http://www.wired.com/gadgetlab/2009/02/showdown-kindle/

Emyr



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PostPosted: Fri Nov 13, 09 12:28 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote    

The thing about books is you spend a long time looking at the same stuff, so eBook reader beats netbook due to the ePaper screen, which only needs juice to change what's on the screen. If I had time to read a book a month, I might consider it.

Bebo



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PostPosted: Fri Nov 13, 09 12:36 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote    

I normally read two books a week (I spend a lot of time on trains). For me it is worthwhile - I was running out of shelf space for all the books.

Louisdog



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PostPosted: Fri Nov 13, 09 12:37 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote    

I have seen the kindle and the screen is awesome, really readable with no glare. The device is so thin and lightweight it would be great to be able to have loads of books all in one tiny package like that.

I didn't like the little lag when you turned the page though and the screen felt a lot smaller than a paperback page. It felt really odd holding the flat tablet rather than a proper book but I guess I'd get used to that.

Like someone else said, I would miss being able to take my books into the bath!

Edit: forgot to say, I also realised that I borrow and lend a lot of the books I read between friends and family, which would not be possible with an e-reader...

Gervase



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PostPosted: Fri Nov 13, 09 1:03 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote    

Nick wrote:
Buy real books, and blow the cash on something else.

Too bloody right. A gizmo to read ebooks will last how long? Seven years tops. then what? Landfill, together with all the mercury, cadmium, plastic, mromides and other gunk used in its making. It uses electricity to charge it up while it's still working, and if you drop it in the bath or off the side of the bed it's likely to get knackered sooner.
It's an obsession with gadgetry just for the sake of it. In that sense it's no different from the selfish indulgence of buying a huge, gas-guzzling 4x4 if you live in Knightsbridge.
Ask yourself - do you actually need it because you have eyesight problems? Don't do it.

Bebo



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PostPosted: Fri Nov 13, 09 1:08 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote    

Gervase wrote:
In that sense it's no different from the selfish indulgence of buying a huge, gas-guzzling 4x4 if you live in Knightsbridge.


Except it fits more neatly into a parking space.

Treacodactyl
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PostPosted: Fri Nov 13, 09 1:12 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote    

I expect there's a reasonable chance an E-reader might be more environmentally friendly if it's recycled at the end of its life and you would otherwise buy a lot of books.

I don't know much about them but are there e-libraries about which you can legally download books from?

If not, wouldn't a normally library be the best bet?

Gervase



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PostPosted: Fri Nov 13, 09 1:22 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote    

At the moment I would imagine that pulp from sustainable softwood plantations augmented with recycled cellulose which can then be passed on as an intact artefact some years later is still rather more in keeping with the downsizing ethos than an electronic toy with a very limited life that will eventually be disassembled by children in Indian sweatshops.
But maybe I've got this reduce, reuse and recyle malarky all a bit skewed.

Treacodactyl
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PostPosted: Fri Nov 13, 09 1:27 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote    

Perhaps you have. I'd be just a bit curious to know the environmental impact on one such device compared to say the printing, transport and storage of say 2000 books.

jema
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PostPosted: Fri Nov 13, 09 1:31 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote    

I see them as a "one day" gadget, we have endless shelves of dusty books and much as I like them, the idea of them being in electronic form *will* appeal.

But only when the tech has matured to a point where it is a really good reading experience and has the longevity of books.

If it is as good a s book as a reading experience, then it will catch on, probably particularly with people like me who have a perpetual bookshelf crisis.

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