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Sally Too

Joined: 14 Sep 2006
Posts: 2511
Location: N.Ireland

Posted: Sun Sep 05, 10 10:32 am Post subject:

Thank you for this detailed reply OP. I have ordered the book from an Amazon seller.

Where do you recommend buying root stock?

Perhaps, I should think of a more intensive site preparation than just the "field" and then use the M27 as you suggest.

THANK YOU EVERY-ONE for these fantastic suggestions. These are great ideas.

I have Helpxers here through until mid Oct, so perhaps I can get them to help.

(Edit for clarity)

OP

Joined: 28 Jul 2006
Posts: 4661
Location: Yorkshire

Posted: Sun Sep 05, 10 11:00 am Post subject:
I know a few rootstock suppliers, but not in Northern Ireland.

Sally Too

Joined: 14 Sep 2006
Posts: 2511
Location: N.Ireland

Posted: Sun Sep 05, 10 11:01 am Post subject:
Would they ship?

Sally Too

Joined: 14 Sep 2006
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Location: N.Ireland

Posted: Sun Sep 05, 10 9:16 pm Post subject:
Blackmoor Nurseries can supply M27, but don't do a discount in the unit price even for 80! £2.25 each. Then the carriage is £30. So I think perhaps I'll only attempt to graft a few. Buying that no at that price would take this project into a whole different league! While googling around I found another Downsizer thread: https://forum.downsizer.net/about34717.html&start=0

Sally Too

Joined: 14 Sep 2006
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Location: N.Ireland

Posted: Sun Sep 05, 10 9:42 pm Post subject:

So I'm gradually formulating a plan for the autumn:

I'll plant out these trees on their own roots in a field setting as was my initial plan. I have the space to give them all about 4m (12') each way - maybe more for the ones that are already growing bigger. In spring, I'll snip the leader branch out to encourage branching for taking material for grafting.

I'll buy only a couple of dozen M27 root stock this autumn which I'll plant in a more controlled nursery setting when they arrive. Then I'll graft material from the healthiest looking whole trees onto these next summer as trials.

Next year I might try some more grafts from the other trees that are still surviving!

Then I'll take it from there.

Calli

Joined: 13 Mar 2009
Posts: 626
Location: Galway

Posted: Sun Sep 05, 10 9:56 pm Post subject:
Sally what a brilliant project and plan! Have you had a look around this site? Irish Seed Savers

Sally Too

Joined: 14 Sep 2006
Posts: 2511
Location: N.Ireland

Posted: Sun Sep 05, 10 10:00 pm Post subject:
OOOOHHH Yes! I have about a dozen of their trees round and about already. About half of them fruited for the first time this year. One is delicious! I might try to graft from it..... (must check it's name)

yummersetter

Joined: 26 Jan 2008
Posts: 3241
Location: Somerset

Posted: Sun Sep 05, 10 10:05 pm Post subject:
funny looking at that thread from a couple of years back - like looking at old photos! And I'm trying valiantly to keep Scotts afloat, not knowing then about John Wallis's illness

Calli

Joined: 13 Mar 2009
Posts: 626
Location: Galway

Posted: Sun Sep 05, 10 10:21 pm Post subject:
Sally Oh do tell what you went for? I am still looking and because it is local planning a visit I need more apple trees And maybe other trees and suchlike? gratuitous link

Sally Too

Joined: 14 Sep 2006
Posts: 2511
Location: N.Ireland

Posted: Mon Sep 06, 10 1:46 pm Post subject:
I'm in work right now, but I'll check later...... The trees are all different varieties.

Sally Too

Joined: 14 Sep 2006
Posts: 2511
Location: N.Ireland

Posted: Mon Sep 06, 10 5:07 pm Post subject:
So the varieties I have planted are: Keegan's crab (not a crab!)link Finola Lees link Reid Seedling (couldn't find link to this one) Yellow Pitcher link Appletown Wonder link Kerry Pippin link

Sally Too

Joined: 14 Sep 2006
Posts: 2511
Location: N.Ireland

Posted: Mon Sep 06, 10 5:09 pm Post subject:
Trouble is.... although I know these are some of the varieties Ihave out there (I found a list) I have lost the planting plan. It is around somewhere and I will find it...... I have another batch of names too that must be with the planting plan too......

tahir

Joined: 28 Oct 2004
Posts: 45432
Location: Essex

Posted: Mon Sep 06, 10 5:12 pm Post subject:

Sally wrote:

I have lost the planting plan. It is around somewhere and I will find it......

I'm still saying that 5 years later on some of ours

yummersetter

Joined: 26 Jan 2008
Posts: 3241
Location: Somerset

Posted: Mon Sep 06, 10 5:14 pm Post subject:

Calli wrote:

And maybe other trees and suchlike? gratuitous link

I like Mark Diacano's attitude and writing style - dreadful photo though, the more so as he's an excellent and careful photographer. I saw him at River Cottage / Park Farm and bought a signed copy of 'A Taste of the Unexpected' yesterday, I'm looking forward to reading it.

Sally Too

Joined: 14 Sep 2006
Posts: 2511
Location: N.Ireland

Posted: Mon Sep 06, 10 5:17 pm Post subject:

tahir wrote:

Sally wrote:

I have lost the planting plan. It is around somewhere and I will find it......

I'm still saying that 5 years later on some of ours

Thing is - I love starting little note books and things.... it's just I file them somewhere that seemed logical at the time..... and then I start another little book for another little project!

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