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Tavascarow

Joined: 06 Aug 2006
Posts: 8407
Location: South Cornwall

Posted: Sat Mar 31, 12 1:30 pm Post subject: Please act, now is the time.

New UK research is finally showing Neonicitinoid insecticides are killing our bees.
BBC news article.
This was also making the mainstream TV news on all channels a few days ago.
If you haven't already done so please write to your MP & ask them to support EDM 2664.
It's easy to do online & only takes a few minutes.
If you are a member of the BBKA please write to them & ask them to finally cut their ties with the pesticide industry completely & ally with other conservation bodies like bug life.
Even if you aren't a beekeeper these chemicals are probably also playing a major part in the decline of wild pollinators that have also had dramatic population decline in recent years.
Much of the food on our plates is dependent on these little miracles so please from the bottom of my heart react.
Now is the time.

Cathryn

Joined: 16 Jul 2005
Posts: 19856
Location: Ceredigion

Posted: Sat Mar 31, 12 1:53 pm Post subject:
I wonder if the Welsh Beekeeping Organisation has links with Bayer. I know they have nowhere near as much money. They could be asked to disassociate themselves from this in any case. I will find out.

Hairyloon

Joined: 20 Nov 2008
Posts: 15425
Location: Today I are mostly being in Yorkshire.

Posted: Sat Mar 31, 12 3:11 pm Post subject: Re: Please act, now is the time.

Tavascarow wrote:

If you haven't already done so please write to your MP & ask them to support EDM 2664.

Perhaps see if they have first, and if not write and ask why not.

https://www.parliament.uk/edm/2010-12/2664

Tavascarow

Joined: 06 Aug 2006
Posts: 8407
Location: South Cornwall

Posted: Sun Apr 01, 12 8:01 am Post subject: Re: Please act, now is the time.

Hairyloon wrote:

Tavascarow wrote:

If you haven't already done so please write to your MP & ask them to support EDM 2664.

Perhaps see if they have first, and if not write and ask why not.

https://www.parliament.uk/edm/2010-12/2664

From that list it seems that party affiliation plays a part.
One Conservative!
Not bad considering DC was touting before the election that theirs would be the greenest government we've had?
There are letters you can copy with relevant questions to ask the abstainers on the link I posted at the start.
Please folks hassle them, for the sake of the environment & the bees.

TTouch Homestead

Joined: 13 Oct 2011
Posts: 703
Location: Cardigan, West Wales

Posted: Sun Apr 01, 12 8:25 am Post subject:
Looks like our MP is already supportive according to the list...

Tavascarow

Joined: 06 Aug 2006
Posts: 8407
Location: South Cornwall

Posted: Sun Apr 01, 12 8:52 am Post subject:

TTouch Homestead wrote:

Looks like our MP is already supportive according to the list...

Excellent.

Hairyloon

Joined: 20 Nov 2008
Posts: 15425
Location: Today I are mostly being in Yorkshire.

Posted: Sun Apr 01, 12 9:13 am Post subject:
I should take a leaf out of their book: if they can "flip" their "main home" to suit their convenience, why can't I do likewise when deciding which MP to write to?

jamanda
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Joined: 22 Oct 2006
Posts: 35056
Location: Devon

Posted: Sun Apr 01, 12 10:09 am Post subject:
Mine's a Tory, and a very slimy one at that! I have written, but I expect he'll toe the party line.

Nick

Joined: 02 Nov 2004
Posts: 34535
Location: Hereford

Posted: Sun Apr 01, 12 10:36 am Post subject:

Hairyloon wrote:

I should take a leaf out of their book: if they can "flip" their "main home" to suit their convenience, why can't I do likewise when deciding which MP to write to?

Do it. If you have a valid address, why not? If the electoral roll hasn't caught up if they check...so what?

Hairyloon

Joined: 20 Nov 2008
Posts: 15425
Location: Today I are mostly being in Yorkshire.

Posted: Sun Apr 01, 12 11:10 am Post subject:

Jamanda wrote:

Mine's a Tory, and a very slimy one at that! I have written, but I expect he'll toe the party line.

Do you think the party has actually taken the line?
It is surely more likely apathy or ignorance.

Or maybe someone should check if the party has had relevant donations.

Hairyloon

Joined: 20 Nov 2008
Posts: 15425
Location: Today I are mostly being in Yorkshire.

Posted: Sun Apr 01, 12 11:13 am Post subject:

Nick wrote:

Hairyloon wrote:

I should take a leaf out of their book: if they can "flip" their "main home" to suit their convenience, why can't I do likewise when deciding which MP to write to?

Do it. If you have a valid address, why not? If the electoral roll hasn't caught up if they check...so what?

I'm already registered twice. I've been meaning to see if I can chalk up a couple more.
As far as I can tell, it is only illegal if you're dishonest, or vote twice.

Cathryn

Joined: 16 Jul 2005
Posts: 19856
Location: Ceredigion

Posted: Mon Apr 09, 12 6:40 pm Post subject:
https://www.fwi.co.uk/Articles/04/04/2012/132249/39Banning-pesticides-will-not-reverse-bee-decline39.htm There's this. Not exactly unsurprising but needs to be part of the debate as well. I would like to know more about Australia. I'll have to start reading.

Cathryn

Joined: 16 Jul 2005
Posts: 19856
Location: Ceredigion

Posted: Mon Apr 09, 12 7:21 pm Post subject:
https://theabk.com.au/article/neonicotinoids-australia This is rather anecdotal but I think anything scientific on this would be beyond me.

Tavascarow

Joined: 06 Aug 2006
Posts: 8407
Location: South Cornwall

Posted: Mon Apr 09, 12 7:24 pm Post subject:

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For the two studies, bees were directly sprayed with neonicotinoid products and the effects were analysed.

That's a complete lie.
In both studies (AFAIA) bees where fed syrup with concentrations of insecticide the same as found in the honey of colonies foraging over neonic treated crops.
Neither study showed bees navigation or communication where affected, although there is research elsewhere from Germany & the USA that indicate this.
The British study shows the laying ability of queens from colonies fed neonics is much reduced, & the French study shows bees fed neonics are more susceptible to Nosema, a common bee disease found in most hives that generally has little effect until other factors come into play.
Such as chemical contamination of food stores & stress through other mismanagement.
IMHO if they can't counter the argument with real facts it proves the point.

Cathryn

Joined: 16 Jul 2005
Posts: 19856
Location: Ceredigion

Posted: Mon Apr 09, 12 7:34 pm Post subject:
I might ask him to substantiate what he has written.

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