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Le Loup



Joined: 26 Apr 2010
Posts: 91
Location: New England Australia.
PostPosted: Tue Jun 05, 12 11:34 pm    Post subject: My Hunting Gun Of Choice.  Reply with quote    

Flintock fusil. .62 calibre/20 gauge. 42 inch barrel.




Loads: Birdshot; Swan shot; Round ball. Or a combination of any two of these.

chris123



Joined: 14 Oct 2011
Posts: 4

PostPosted: Sun Oct 28, 12 9:17 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote    

nice
would love a muzzle loader


chris

Le Loup



Joined: 26 Apr 2010
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Location: New England Australia.
PostPosted: Sun Oct 28, 12 9:55 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote    

chris123 wrote:
nice
would love a muzzle loader


chris


The flintlock is the best survival gun ever made in my opinion Chris.

frewen



Joined: 08 Sep 2005
Posts: 11289

PostPosted: Sun Oct 28, 12 10:13 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote    

I'm going to have to ask why - not that I disbelieve you. I'm just intrigued to know

Le Loup



Joined: 26 Apr 2010
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Location: New England Australia.
PostPosted: Sun Oct 28, 12 11:19 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote    

frewen wrote:
I'm going to have to ask why - not that I disbelieve you. I'm just intrigued to know


The flintlock is easy to service & repair if you carry a few spare springs & tools. IF you should run out of spare parts (though not likely because these guns are pretty robust), you can easily turn the flint lock into a matchlock & keep using it.
The lock can be used to make fire without using any gunpowder, but at the same time, gunpowder can be used with unprepared tinder to make fire with flint & steel.
A flintlock fusil or musket can digest round ball, bird shot, or swan shot (buckshot), or any combination of two of these together. You do not need to carry cartridges, but you can make cartridges for a smoothbore for faster reloading. Using a ball or bullet board also speeds reloading.
You can regulate how much charge you use IF you were getting low on gunpowder. You do not need to carry weighty reloading gear, all you need is a lead ladle & a ball mould.
Lead ball can be retrieved from shot game & is easily remoulded for use again. This fact means that you can carry less lead & more of the lighter gunpowder.
Apart from the powder horn, you can also carry extra gunpowder (black powder) in a powder bag. When a powder bag is empty of gunpowder, it is used to store spare tinder for fire lighting. Tinder stored in this manner is quick to catch a spark from flint & steel.
IF you were to run out of lead, other objects can be used in a survival situation. As the gun's ignition relies only on a hard sharp rock & a steel, suitable rocks can be found in most places should you run out of flints, but I always carry spares anyway. I think that covers it frewen.
Regards, Keith.
http://woodsrunnersdiary.blogspot.com.au/

frewen



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PostPosted: Sun Oct 28, 12 11:49 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote    

Thanks - that's really interesting

Le Loup



Joined: 26 Apr 2010
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Location: New England Australia.
PostPosted: Mon Oct 29, 12 12:20 am    Post subject: Reply with quote    

frewen wrote:
Thanks - that's really interesting

My pleasure frewen.
Keith.

oldish chris



Joined: 14 Jun 2006
Posts: 4148
Location: Comfortably Wet Southport
PostPosted: Mon Oct 29, 12 7:19 am    Post subject: Reply with quote    

Le Loup wrote:
The flintlock is the best survival gun ever made in my opinion.
Surviving what exactly? Unemployment? Unexpected illness? Hurricane Sandy? An ice storm? A drought? Or, the even more likely plague of zombies?

Treacodactyl
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PostPosted: Mon Oct 29, 12 9:21 am    Post subject: Reply with quote    

oldish chris wrote:
Le Loup wrote:
The flintlock is the best survival gun ever made in my opinion.
Surviving what exactly? Unemployment? Unexpected illness? Hurricane Sandy? An ice storm? A drought? Or, the even more likely plague of zombies?


As Le Loup is in Australia I bet there's more reason to have something flexible if you're living away from the towns. Even in the UK where you don't seem to be more than half an hour from a supermarket I can see it's use. It would be cheaper to run than many guns and more rewarding to shoot for many. And something you can maintain yourself rather than wait 6 months for a part to be imported would be ideal as well.

dpack



Joined: 02 Jul 2005
Posts: 32502
Location: yes
PostPosted: Mon Oct 29, 12 12:49 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote    

a further good point for such a tool is that a functional propellant can be produced from a variety of substances by rough chemistry

with knowledge most landscapes could provide the raw materials

however in most places learning such skills is illegal as can be as well as being dangerooos deluxe

magnet



Joined: 05 Apr 2010
Posts: 34
Location: Northumberland
PostPosted: Thu Nov 01, 12 6:53 pm    Post subject: muzzleloader Reply with quote    

oldish chris wrote:
Le Loup wrote:
The flintlock is the best survival gun ever made in my opinion.
Surviving what exactly? Unemployment? Unexpected illness? Hurricane Sandy? An ice storm? A drought? Or, the even more likely plague of
zombies?
why do people feel the need to take the piss? If you've nothing good to say why not say nowt at all.Take a bit of time and listen to this guy you would likley come away the better for it....Magnet

Bodger



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PostPosted: Thu Nov 01, 12 7:55 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote    

Not many on the forum shoot or hunt but I agree with what you say.

My chosen weapon for the UK would be my Weiracht .177 air rifle. A bit heavy to carry around but deadly acurate for rabbits, pigeons and squirrels. I daredn't mention catapults and bows, or the Zombies would definately rise from the dead.

oldish chris



Joined: 14 Jun 2006
Posts: 4148
Location: Comfortably Wet Southport
PostPosted: Thu Nov 01, 12 8:11 pm    Post subject: Re: muzzleloader Reply with quote    

magnet wrote:
oldish chris wrote:
Le Loup wrote:
The flintlock is the best survival gun ever made in my opinion.
Surviving what exactly? Unemployment? Unexpected illness? Hurricane Sandy? An ice storm? A drought? Or, the even more likely plague of
zombies?
why do people feel the need to take the piss? If you've nothing good to say why not say nowt at all.Take a bit of time and listen to this guy you would likley come away the better for it....Magnet


Educate me, surviving what exactly?

magnet



Joined: 05 Apr 2010
Posts: 34
Location: Northumberland
PostPosted: Thu Nov 01, 12 8:13 pm    Post subject: Bodgers survival gun!!!! Reply with quote    

Bodger wrote:
Not many on the forum shoot or hunt but I agree with what you say.

My chosen weapon for the UK would be my Weiracht .177 air rifle. A bit heavy to carry around but deadly acurate for rabbits, pigeons and squirrels. I daredn't mention catapults and bows, or the Zombies would definately rise from the dead.
I must concur i have the hw80 in .22 its heavy yes but when these pcps are gasping for filtered dried air i'll still be filling the pot.
long live the springers!!,btw nice to speak to a kindred spirit. All the best .....Magnet

Le Loup



Joined: 26 Apr 2010
Posts: 91
Location: New England Australia.
PostPosted: Fri Nov 02, 12 1:11 am    Post subject: Re: muzzleloader Reply with quote    

oldish chris wrote:
magnet wrote:
oldish chris wrote:
Le Loup wrote:
The flintlock is the best survival gun ever made in my opinion.
Surviving what exactly? Unemployment? Unexpected illness? Hurricane Sandy? An ice storm? A drought? Or, the even more likely plague of
zombies?
why do people feel the need to take the piss? If you've nothing good to say why not say nowt at all.Take a bit of time and listen to this guy you would likley come away the better for it....Magnet


Educate me, surviving what exactly?


Any scenario that places you in a situation where you need a firearm or other tool for securing food when away from home/towns/cities long term. If you consider this unlikely or impossible, then my post does not consern you.
Keith.

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