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Annemieke



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Location: Somerset UK
PostPosted: Mon Jul 08, 13 8:03 am    Post subject: uses for an old gas canister Reply with quote
    

We have a blue gas canister, about 2' high, 15k butane. They are not used anymore so we took it to the recycling centre. They wanted twelve quid - twelve quid! - for taking it ! No way, of course.
So what to do? I like to make use of it, as a table stand, or a weight for instance. Has anyone got more ideas?
Or should we take it to a scrap merchant, it must weigh a lot and I thought that scrap metal was valuable these days.
Suggestions gratefully received .....

Mistress Rose



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PostPosted: Mon Jul 08, 13 8:10 am    Post subject: Reply with quote
    

Unless you can think of a good use, try a scrap merchant. You may not get much or anything for it, but at least they won't charge you to take it I wouldn't think.

vegplot



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PostPosted: Mon Jul 08, 13 8:14 am    Post subject: Reply with quote
    

In theory the bottle belong to the producer (Calor, Flogas etc.) so if you want to get hand it back to one of their depots.

Extreme danger is a real risk when you try to modify them and is not advisable and getting advice on a public forum maybe difficult for risk of litigation or prosecution if death or serious injury should occur.

Piggyphile



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PostPosted: Mon Jul 08, 13 8:16 am    Post subject: Reply with quote
    

A rocket stove was my first thought, get someone to make it for you from the cannister, but I don't know very much about it or how easy they are to cut.

Then you can have a brew in the garden.

Hairyloon



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PostPosted: Mon Jul 08, 13 8:43 am    Post subject: Reply with quote
    

vegplot wrote:
In theory the bottle belong to the producer...

And because of that, the scrap yards shouldn't touch them.
Quote:
Extreme danger is a real risk when you try to modify them...

What's the risk, other than explosion?
If you vent all the gas that'll vent, then unscrew the valve and fill the bottle with water, then explosion risk is minimal.

Treacodactyl
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PostPosted: Mon Jul 08, 13 10:17 am    Post subject: Reply with quote
    

Hairyloon wrote:
vegplot wrote:
In theory the bottle belong to the producer...

And because of that, the scrap yards shouldn't touch them.


The one I spoke to seemed to be pragmatic, he knew which cylinders he couldn't touch and ones he could scrap.

vegplot



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PostPosted: Mon Jul 08, 13 11:19 am    Post subject: Reply with quote
    

Hairyloon wrote:

What's the risk, other than explosion?


You may get dirty hands.

Annemieke



Joined: 26 Feb 2013
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PostPosted: Mon Jul 08, 13 11:49 am    Post subject: Reply with quote
    

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In theory the bottle belong to the producer (Calor, Flogas etc.) so if you want to get hand it back to one of their depots.

Where could Calor have its depot? Can't seem to find out from the internet.

Hairyloon



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PostPosted: Mon Jul 08, 13 12:10 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote
    

vegplot wrote:
Hairyloon wrote:

What's the risk, other than explosion?

You may get dirty hands.

Ah yes. That puts things in perspective.
Next one that came my way was destined to become a downdraft gassifier, but now you've reminded me the risk, I'll have a re-think...

Bodrighy



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PostPosted: Mon Jul 08, 13 12:35 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote
    

I knew someone who turned one into a wood burner for his caravan but not something I would want to try personally.

Pete

Hairyloon



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PostPosted: Mon Jul 08, 13 2:03 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote
    

Bodrighy wrote:
I knew someone who turned one into a wood burner for his caravan but not something I would want to try personally.

If you think of a woodburner as a box to have a fire in, then they are quite easy to make.
However, if you think a wood burner is a sophisticated device with cunning airflows to maximise the efficiency of combustion then it is a whole different game.

Nick



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PostPosted: Mon Jul 08, 13 2:39 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote
    

Onemanband has one in his man hut.

RichardW



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PostPosted: Mon Jul 08, 13 3:45 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote
    

Annemieke wrote:

Where could Calor have its depot? Can't seem to find out from the internet.



Most petrol stations also sell bottled LPG. Some of them will be Calor stockists. You can return them to there.

Colin & Jan



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PostPosted: Mon Jul 08, 13 4:07 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote
    

I've made them into chimenia's. Opened the valve to clear any gas and then took the valve assembly out (not that easy). Fill with water and leave for a day or two, then using a 100mm grinder cut the hole size required for the fire box. Then cut a bigger hole where the valve assembly came out off and weld a chimney on (road sign posts are a good size). Then weld three legs on a the required height. Not pretty but very effective.

misty07



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PostPosted: Mon Jul 08, 13 6:02 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote
    

i have 3 in the bin shed at work a 15kg orange one and 2 x blue maybe 4kg ones. im wanting to make them into something so was thinking of a firebox or bbq or a stove of some sort even just to boil the kettle at field. so whats the procedure of making them safe?

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