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Falstaff



Joined: 27 May 2009
Posts: 1014

PostPosted: Tue Nov 17, 15 8:46 pm    Post subject:  Reply with quote    

dpack wrote:
perhaps the last line is the reason they are being destroyed,an educated population is dangerous.


True - but whilst the vast majority are completely under the spell of the propaganda and have an attention span which twitter calculates to be 140 ? characters - there's not much fear of a population suddenly developing the power of rational thought or the ability to question the official dogma by being in a library !

I walked out of the one in this town some 25 years ago as they would not accept my MoD security pass as "proof of ID" - tossers !

Is there a place for them nowadays ?

There are a good few people who have not properly integrated into the 21st century and I suppose they derive a lot of value from libraries - and Gregotyn uses his for internet access - which must be a pain - but very cost effective, if you don't do that much on t'internet.

Like Pubs and Working mens clubs ( Well "working men" too ) I suppose libraries are just another community enterprise which the "New generation" will demolish by their total disregard of anything which the population can derive a benefit from without "Logging in" !

Mistress Rose



Joined: 21 Jul 2011
Posts: 8743

PostPosted: Wed Nov 18, 15 7:39 am    Post subject: Reply with quote    

As one of those who has failed to integrate with the 21st century; that is, I prefer things on paper rather than a computer screen, yes there is definitely a place for books and libraries. There are still a lot of us that were born half way or less into the 20th century, and we should be here for quite a time yet.

Apart from anything else, you can read a book, write on paper, or refer to information in books during a power cut. Think about that when we have only about 2% spare electricity capacity.

gregotyn



Joined: 24 Jun 2010
Posts: 1397
Location: Llanfyllin area
PostPosted: Thu Nov 19, 15 3:29 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote    

Oh MR we have a lot in common, paper works for me too, although I like the computer as I can correct my spelling mistakes witout having to start again! I am currently reading the Phinn books you recommended and at the rate of one a week, I am a slow reader. I want to live as long as I am well but would turn the clock back to pre computers if I could. I also don't like the idea of someone being able to access my money without my knowledge.
They didn't ask for id at the library when I joined. But I don't understand librarians being called tossers for wanting your id, Falstaff, they will have had a list of acceptable id, and obviously the military id was not one of them.

Mistress Rose



Joined: 21 Jul 2011
Posts: 8743

PostPosted: Fri Nov 20, 15 7:14 am    Post subject: Reply with quote    

There are some advantages to computers, Gregotyn; we are able to communicate all over the world, so can have a discussion with Jam Lady in the US and Cassandra in Tasmania, as well as being able to correct our spelling. On the other hand, having worked on the microelectronics, I never trust computers and inch. As husband says, even your fridge is out to get you. Trouble was, I was too much at the development stage, so it never ceases to amaze me when it works. I also found having an ability to go back to basics like making jigs out of card and foil a great advantage, and before someone asks, no I didn't make things shown of Blue Peter.

Most places will only take a limited range of ID Falstaff. Occasionally I had works security passes accepted, but generally it is passports and driving licences. Son was once asked for proof of age, so showed them his chainsaw licence, which they grudgingly accepted as it had his age on it. He was a bit peeved because the person that asked had been at the same school as him in the next year down. I have a problem with ID as I don't have a current passport not a photo driving licence, so people have to accept the paper one or take my word for my identity. Still I don't think anyone would steal a paper driving licence to misrepresent someones ID.

gregotyn



Joined: 24 Jun 2010
Posts: 1397
Location: Llanfyllin area
PostPosted: Fri Nov 20, 15 3:16 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote    

That is why I jumped in to defend the library service, I can 'talk' to thousands of folks on the computer who I will probably never meet, but have potentially something in common with-sympathise with-help possibly. Without the library service here I would be unable to do that unless I paid out a lot of money monthly, plus a fair bit of capital as it is one mobile phone and the library service see it 'sorted'! I missed Blue Peter we didn't have TV. I have to get a passport if I am to do any travelling abroad!

Mistress Rose



Joined: 21 Jul 2011
Posts: 8743

PostPosted: Sat Nov 21, 15 7:42 am    Post subject: Reply with quote    

Using the library computer is certainly useful for you Gregotyn. Unfortunately, we don't really have that option, even if we wanted it, as we have to do some of our business on line, and we just have one computer and limited opening hours at our local library. It isn't in the sort of place where you could easily do a lot of work either. I don't hold a current passport either as I only travelled abroad for work, and have never seen the advantages of spending hours in an airport or on a ferry to get to other countries. There is so much of the UK I haven't seen yet.

I got a good lot of books from the library Wednesday, so have started to read them. Nice relax.

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