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| jocorless |
Adventure installing a woodburning stoveWe've finally started on the not so simple task of installing wood burning stoves in the house - First one to tackle (mainly cos the decor is so appalling!) is the one in our dining roomYou can see the original fire place behind my friend David in his beekeeping suit along with our lovely 1970's carpet and piles of clutter ! 
Next stage was to remove the fire and surround and knock off the plaster 
Which revealed that we did infact have a supporting lintel and that the fire was actually just bricked up So 10 bags of rubble and about 70 bricks later we have this (I've put the picture back in the same spot so you can get some perspective) 
The pipes hanging down are the water pipes from the old back boiler - we are planning on putting in a stove with a back boiler to heat our water Next stage is now - rendering the whole of the fireplace - What's the best way to do this ? Gervase ? - The house is a 1935 Brick built semi Then obviously we need to install the baffle plate and tile or fit a hearth before installing the stove - I haven't decided what I want exactly yet |
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| judith |
Ah rubble.
It's nice to see someone else with a living room full of the stuff! Nice big fireplace though. It will look great with a stove in there. |
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| sean |
I think that there are building regs about the nature of the hearth. Woodsprite's OH will know. | ||
| Northern_Lad |
I think the hearth must be fireproof and extend 9" beyond the stove. |
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| jocorless |
I know it has to come out 225mm beyond the front of the firebox and that the stove has to have a certain amount of space around it
50mm at the back, You must have a gap of 150mm each side of the stove to non combustible materials and 230mm if there are combustible materials to the side, You must have 230mm above the stove to non combustible materials and 460mm above the stove if there are combustible materials (for example wood) We also have to have an air vent in the room if the output of the stove is more than 5KW venting to an external air source We have had the chimney's cleaned and checked and thankfully they don't need lining |
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| Mary-Jane |
*Sigh* Aye, I know that feeling too. 
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| Mary-Jane |
Re: Adventure installing a woodburning stove
I'll get Gervase on to this when he gets home tonight Jo. |
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| jocorless |
Thanks Mary-Jane - We want to get it done ASAP especially before September because until we have wood-burning stoves - the only source of heating in the house is a small gas heater in the hallway! | ||
| Treacodactyl |
I also think that connecting a stove to an existing chimney is now covered by Part J of the building regs. I think suitably qualified installers can self certify. Worth checking. |
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| jocorless |
If you install a chimney lining - that comes under the building regs and therefore has to be checked by a building inspector or be done by a qualified installer - If you don't line it - you don't come under the regs which is why we had the chimney tested to see if it needed lining as it was worth the cost compared to £750 of chimney lining plus fitting! | ||
| Will |
We acid washed and sealed the brickwork, then just plastered the outer wall rather than rendering the whole lot.
We took out a repro art deco surround which had been installed in front of the original. The quantity of rubble is truly scary. |
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| boisdevie1 |
Good luck with the work. The only problem is that modern houses are not really designed for the storage of wood. My friend in Lancaster has a similar problem of finding where to store his wood. But once installed they are lovely. We've got one and a second one on order for Septemer. But here firewood is readily available and not expensive. | ||
| jocorless |
Ahh we've plenty of space to store the wood - the joys of having a large (110ft) garden in suburbia  and intend to build a proper wood store when we do the patio's next year - we are raising them up to the level of the house and putting in the equivalent of a double garage underneath them but it will be a wood store, workshop and storage area
We also have access to a limitless supply of free well seasoned wood - our friends who also have a wood burning stove gets all the off-cuts from their friend who is a tree surgeon - they only have one stove and he regularly delivers them 12 months worth - 2 or 3 times a year! |
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| wellington womble |
Wood burners are lovely. I don't even mind lugging the wood about for ours (well, not since we moved and the woodstore isn't at the other end of our previous 100 foot garden! That was a mistake!) You won't regret it. | ||
| vegplot |
I'd like to buy a small woodland. With fuel prices soaring and people getting wise to wood it may be a good investment but finding it is difficult. | ||
| Chez |
I keep looking at woodlands.co.uk wistfully ... I guess the other option is to buy a field and plant some as a long term project. | ||
| pookie |
or you could buy this:-
'Woodlands For Sale' The Broadleaf Trust has for sale 61 acres of forest with full planning permission for a 4 bedroomed house £100k Others..... Approx 100 acres of forest £100k 20 acres of forest £25k near Wick, Scotland. Good access, excellent local facilities. Secluded but not isolated. details 01337 827094 sorry hyjacking a bit here Jo. 
Mods hope this is ok to post, delete if not-it appears word for word in Country Smallholding mag July '08 |
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| wellington womble |
Where's the first one? I'm off. DO you think I can pursuade himself to live in a house in the woods? He likes trees.
Sorry, Jo - Have you sourced your stove and stuff, yet? Himself knocked huge chunks off the price of ours buy ordering off the net, not the stove supplier - I can check where he bought, if you haven't. |
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| pookie |
The ad reads as though they are all the same place, just been split up I guess. | ||
| jocorless |
I'd be interested to know where you got yours from - I've got a potential couple of suppliers lined up but to be honest we wanted to wait until we'd opened the fireplace up and had confirmed what state it was before ordering anything Yesterday however a Park Ray stove with back boiler came up on Freecycle - as it had been replaced - I'm keeping my fingers crossed that we are first in line for it |
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| wellington womble |
Free is a better price than we got! I'l check with himself when he gets home. It made most difference on the double skinned flue, which cost a lot more than the stove, as I recall. | ||
| RichardW |
Web link? tried googling them but got nothing |
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| pookie |
There isn't one on the ad....sorry 
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| jocorless |
We have been offered the stove I mentioned above on Freecycle unfortunately its in a bit of a state as it's been outside for a bit
Anyone any idea how easy it would be to bring it back up to scratch? Its a Park Ray boiler stove - Photo below 
My other worry is that it looks like it is possibly solid fuel rather than multi-fuel which would defeat the object of the exercise - I don't want to turn down something that is possibly exactly what we want - on the other hand I'd rather spend the money and get what we want rather than something not quite right but free |
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| jocorless |
Apparently it is Multi-fuel and has been out for about 6 months - We've said yes because even if its useless - it can always go to the scrap yard | ||
| alison |
What is the black work like.
We sprayed ours, with special paint and you cannot see the scratch that OH did. That would be the asthetics sorted. |
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| vegplot |
It looks in pretty good condition. Just replace the fibre ropes and it should be okay. Check the fire ceramics for cracks (you can fill these with fire cement as a short term fix). These fire were once very common in council owned properties so spares should be easy to get. However, I think they prefer anthracite rather than wood as a fuel. | ||
| wellington womble |
our stuff came from www.stovesonline.co.uk (possibly .com, he isn't sure, I'll check in a bit)
Good luck with the free stove. Looks impressive! |