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Bodger

As promised

I've been up to my mates house tonight to return the Cambridge Roller that I borrowed for yesterdays reseeding.
This mate is the member known as Hawkeye.

Hawky as we can call him, Rolling Eyes Rolling Eyes Rolling Eyes has a thirsty household, in as much as he has five people and two poly tunnels to quench.
What he's done, is to implement a number of water saving measures. He's collected as many water containers as he can and captures as much rain water and utilises it in the house but mainly for his vegetable growing enterprise.
Here are a series of pictures to explain the system he has devised. Its simple but very effective.




In this shot, the water comes directly from the roof and into the square container. Its contents are used to service the toilets in the house. The water is fed into the system by gravity and is controlled by a ball cock. During fine and dry weather when the water from the roof is not sufficient the water is replenished with stored water via an electric pump.








These are just a fraction of the water containers that are dotted strategicallyaround the property harvesting rainwater from the outbuildings. By using a submersible electric pump the water is moved around the property as and when required. Heres the proud owner and inventor.





Heres the small poly with its own water supply followed by the other huge one he has.








Inside the big poly are yet more water containers. These have come from farmers merchants and once contained some form of animal feed supplement.








By a system of plastic piping and pumps the water is shipped readily all over the property to where its needed.

Hawkeyes water supply is metered , so obviously the saving he is making on his water charges is immense.

Perhaps its a system thats not for everyone, but money is money and we can all consider implementing some of these water recycling measures.

The proof of the pudding is in the eating as they say and here are some pictures of whats happening in the poly . Smile


Runner Beans





and whatever !




Bodge . Your Downsizer roving reporter. Smile Smile Smile
Chez

Fantastic system. Various ebay people sell those big square containers - I have a long term plan that involves a couple of them for storage for the garden ...
dpack

ace but i fear the one on the roof will be far too heavey to be safe
more than a bit too heavey ,lots too heavey
Bodger

They have a high pooping rate which exposentially ( is there such a word ) saves them from STRCI syndrome









Suddenly The Roof Caves In Razz Razz Razz Razz
CARROTMUNCHER

although its not a bad system in therory it make the house look like a junk yard.i wouldnt want that attached to my house there must be better ways than this.
Bodger

You're just too posh ! Shocked Shocked Shocked

Its not just a good system in theory its a good system in practice as well. This is a working smallholding.
Rob R

I echo klaus' concerns- you don't see many flat roofs capable of holding a tonne Shocked
Bodger

Hawkeye works as a roofer and actually put the roof on himself, he knows what has gone into it and is very confident that its safe. Very Happy
crofter

I notice he has also put battens under the tank to spread the load. If he built the roof and is happy living below it, fair enough, but I agree it looks a bit dodgy!
Rob R

The thing that would really concern me is what it means for insurance...
CARROTMUNCHER

bodger wrote:
You're just too posh ! Shocked Shocked Shocked

Its not just a good system in theory its a good system in practice as well. This is a working smallholding.


no i am not to posh.
it looks unsightly and dangerous and i wouldnt want my house looking like the dingles Mad what happens if the is a hard frost and the water freezes.It would come through the roof.
All im saying is there must be a better way.

sorry forgot to mention the poly tunnels which look fab. Wink
Bodger

Perhaps you could come up with a few suggestions Carrot Muncher , rather than knocking a working mans efforts to make ends meet. He certainly couldn't keep his Polytunnels watered and his crops growing on his budget without this system.
I didn't for a minute envisage this sort of criticism of the mans efforts. I'm fairly sure that I understand where you are coming from, however I'm quite happy that most people who have read this article have taken a favourable view of my friends efforts.
Rob R

CARROTMUNCHER wrote:
what happens if the is a hard frost and the water freezes.It would come through the roof.


Why, what changes when it freezes? Confused
crofter

Ice might burst a pipe, all the water might leak out of the tank onto the roof (?) Presumably the roof is watertight though. I would be more worried about the fact there could be a tonne of water directly above me as I washed the dishes, in fact, I would be inclined to WASTE a lot of water washing dishes, to reduce the volume stored above my head!
Rob R

What is he trying to flush away?? Laughing
CARROTMUNCHER

Rob R wrote:
CARROTMUNCHER wrote:
what happens if the is a hard frost and the water freezes.It would come through the roof.


Why, what changes when it freezes? Confused


ice is heavier than water. Very Happy
Rob R

CARROTMUNCHER wrote:


ice is heavier than water. Very Happy


Funny
CARROTMUNCHER

bodger wrote:

I didn't for a minute envisage this sort of criticism of the mans efforts.

The idea is a good one.I am not saying it isnt.There must be a better way though of projecting the idea with out making the place look like a junk yard.

I'm fairly sure that I understand where you are coming from, however
Dont read to much in to this as you are wrong.this is a completly different forum It has nothing to do with anythink else.



I'm quite happy that most people who have read this article have taken a favourable view of my friends efforts.


And so they should its not a bad idea.I think wind power is a good idea also but i wouldnt have a massive turrbine in my back garden would i.
How it is put up looks unsightly and dangerous i am not the only one to voice these concerns.
CARROTMUNCHER

Rob R wrote:
CARROTMUNCHER wrote:


ice is heavier than water. Very Happy


Funny



you knew what i ment Rolling Eyes
Rob R

Sorry, couldn't resist Smile
pricey

CARROTMUNCHER wrote:
Rob R wrote:
CARROTMUNCHER wrote:
what happens if the is a hard frost and the water freezes.It would come through the roof.


Why, what changes when it freezes? Confused


ice is heavier than water. Very Happy


Sorry but why does ice float then?
Rob R

Quote:
Ice floats because it is about 9% less dense than liquid water.
pricey

Sorry forgot to say it looks a very good system, similar to ours in Portugal, but our tanks are concrete.
Bodger

It's been up and running for four years without a hitch and with hugely reduced water charges.
You can lead a horse to water but you can't make it drink.
pricey

bodger wrote:
It's been up and running for four years without a hitch and with hugely reduced water charges.
You can lead a horse to water but you can't make it drink.


Drink that sounds good to me large scotch please Laughing
CARROTMUNCHER

bodger wrote:
It's been up and running for four years without a hitch and with hugely reduced water charges.
You can lead a horse to water but you can't make it drink.


i should imagen it would reduce house prices aswell. Wink
Nick

CARROTMUNCHER wrote:
Rob R wrote:
CARROTMUNCHER wrote:
what happens if the is a hard frost and the water freezes.It would come through the roof.


Why, what changes when it freezes? Confused


ice is heavier than water. Very Happy


Which is why it sinks, right?
Green Man

Like Grand Designs he could feed all his grey water to an underground tank.
Rob R

Cho-ku-ri wrote:
Like Grand Designs he could feed all his grey water to an underground tank.


True, though I think the idea of having it on the roof is so that you don't have to rely on pumps to give you the pressure, so it'll be cheaper to run. We're looking at a similar thing for the livestock buildings.
Bodger

CKR
He pumps the grey water to a holding tank in one of the polytunnels. You should smell it in the summer months. Shocked Shocked

It saves him money but could also lose him friends. Very Happy
Bodger

The poly tunnel seems to be flourishing on the free water. Its certainly changed a bit.









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