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Nick

Banning sites.

How can I prevent my PC being used to visit a certain site?

I can argue and discuss, and be open and tolerant with my kids, but I'd actually just like to black list bebo for them.

Suggestions, please?
RichardW

You need a cyber sitter / net nanny type program unless you have a router than is configurable to block sites. You can also go to explorer, tools, internet options, security, restricted sites, sites. Add site.

Or a cattle prod.

Justme
Penny

Or just accept it?

Kids of today hey Wink
jema

edit the HOSTS.TXT file and direct www.bebo.com to 192.168.0.1
Bebo

Re: Banning sites.

Nick wrote:
I'd actually just like to black list bebo for them.


What have I done?
JB

jema wrote:
edit the HOSTS.TXT file and direct www.bebo.com to 192.168.0.1


c:/windows/system/drivers/etc/hosts in windows boxes (might be win32, might be system32, varies slightly according to version of OS)
Rob R

Penny wrote:
Or just accept it?

Kids of today hey Wink


Yeah but look at the parent Laughing

He must not want them to find his Bebo profile.


Seriously, good idea, there's some odd folk on there.
cab

Re: Banning sites.

Nick wrote:

I can argue and discuss, and be open and tolerant with my kids, but I'd actually just like to black list bebo for them.


Forgive my ignorance, but what is bebo?
Nick

Penny wrote:
Or just accept it?

Kids of today hey Wink


Not with a 9 year old, naw. Sometimes I'm just not going to be a liberal parent.
Fee

Re: Banning sites.

cab wrote:
Nick wrote:

I can argue and discuss, and be open and tolerant with my kids, but I'd actually just like to black list bebo for them.


Forgive my ignorance, but what is bebo?


Like Facebook, but mostly kids using it...that and old men pretending to be young men/boys.

Perhaps just read them the riot act about not adding anyone they don't actually know, and make yourselves their friends on there so you can check Wink

I discovered my younger sisters (aged 11 and 13) were on there, so I joined too, just so I can keep an eye on them!
Nick

Re: Banning sites.

cab wrote:
Nick wrote:

I can argue and discuss, and be open and tolerant with my kids, but I'd actually just like to black list bebo for them.


Forgive my ignorance, but what is bebo?


A social networking site. Live chat and a place to share information and so on. At least locally, there's quite a lot of unpleasant and undesirable kids use it, sometimes for bullying. I'm worried my smaller lad has been handing out, in all innocence, too much personal information and answering the wrong kind of surveys/questions.

Thanks for the assistance.
cab

Re: Banning sites.

Fee wrote:

Like Facebook, but mostly kids using it...that and old men pretending to be young men/boys.


Got you. I see the problem!

So many of these around; will it be necessary to stop your kids going on to another similar site, Nick, or will banning this one be enough?
Nick

Currently, tis a local problem with Bebo. They also use MSN for instant chat, and other similar sites. Bebo just seems to be slightly...edgier, for want of a better word. We've had the chat, and we've explained the potential issues. The PC is in the lounge so we can see it mostly, but not 100%. But, with Bebo, I'm seeing windows being shut down before I can check them, as if stuff is being hidden. So, hopefully, just a 'fault' at Bebo will make him move along and forget it. Attention span of a butterfly.
Fee

Sounds like a good plan in that case.
Shane

jema wrote:
edit the HOSTS.TXT file and direct www.bebo.com to 192.168.0.1

What does that do, out of interest?
Nick

jema wrote:
edit the HOSTS.TXT file and direct www.bebo.com to 192.168.0.1


Would this redirect all bebo links, too?
jema

yep.
Barefoot Andrew

Shane wrote:
jema wrote:
edit the HOSTS.TXT file and direct www.bebo.com to 192.168.0.1

What does that do, out of interest?


Website "addresses" like www.bebo.com are purely names for humans to remember. Computers themselves use numeric addresses to identify each other, like 192.168.0.1.

Normally when you visit a website your PC will go and "look up" the website's numeric address that corresponds to the human-friendly name. This process happens automatically in the background.

The hosts.txt file is a way of bypassing this looking-up mechanism such that your PC always has its own permanent record of what numeric address corresponds to a particular name. These days it's not hugely useful, except for little tricks like this. 192.168.0.1. is a "fake" address and doesn't lead anywhere. Because it's in hosts.txt, the computer will always use this fake address and will never look up the real address for Bebo, and so Bebo is effectively blocked.

A.
Nick

OK, done. Very simple, thanks. bebo.com now just times out. I assume the IP you gave me is something where that should happen?
Barefoot Andrew

Tis indeed. Your PC will be attempting to connect to an address 192.168.0.1 on your home network. There won't be such an address, so the thing times out.

Addresses that begin with 192.168 are for "internal" use. Anyone can set up a network that uses 192.168.x.x addresses and it will be completely private, and completely independent from anyone else who has done the same. In other words, any attempt by your PC to contact a 192.168.x.x address will never make it to the outside world.
A.
Jonnyboy

In some cases will 192.168.0.1 connect you to your actual router?
Barefoot Andrew

Jonnyboy wrote:
In some cases will 192.168.0.1 connect you to your actual router?


Could do - although they tend to come as 192.168.1.1. Either way, stick in other random numbers, e.g. edit hosts.txt and direct Bebo to 192.168.12.5

A.
Shane

Barefoot Andrew wrote:
The hosts.txt file is a way of bypassing this looking-up mechanism such that your PC always has its own permanent record of what numeric address corresponds to a particular name. These days it's not hugely useful, except for little tricks like this. 192.168.0.1. is a "fake" address and doesn't lead anywhere. Because it's in hosts.txt, the computer will always use this fake address and will never look up the real address for Bebo, and so Bebo is effectively blocked.

Cheers - always good to learn stuff like that!
JB

Barefoot Andrew wrote:
Jonnyboy wrote:
In some cases will 192.168.0.1 connect you to your actual router?


Could do - although they tend to come as 192.168.1.1. Either way, stick in other random numbers, e.g. edit hosts.txt and direct Bebo to 192.168.12.5

A.


Or use 127.0.0.1 which is the local loopback (or in non tech speak your own PC). I suspect the only real risk with using 192.168.0.1 is that it might be a real address and might be your own router which might be unprotected for local traffic.
Nick

Bump. Need this page for when I get home.
Chez

Have they found another site to use, then?
Hairyloon

As an alternate strategy, is there an easy way of logging the chat?
colour it green

theres sposed to be a regular parent avoidance technique of having a 'parent friendly' profile say on FB, and and undercover one their parents dont know about that they really use....
Jonnyboy

just checked my router and you can block sites on it, either through the site address or by keyword
Gervase

You certainly do get some very odd people on Bebo. Apparently even I'm on it - thanks to the BNP setting up a fake page in my name!
Jonnyboy

I didn't know they took proud gay men.
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