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Piggyphile

Best easy to use sharpening 'thing' for tools

Tim and I (as many know) are planning to move to our Spanish smallholding as soon as we sell the house. We have inherited loads of very old tools some of which we can't name. There are ancient scythes, billhooks and 'spanish things'.
As we are numpty sharpeners with only a knife sharpener to our name can anyone recommend a good tool sharpener which anyone can use?
Ideally it will have twin blades set at the correct angle so we just shove implements into it, rub them up and down a bit and it does the rest. Single stones/steels all seem to need a good knowledge of angles.
It has to be better to sharpen the rusty stuff than buy brand new, doesn't it?
Will rusty blades sharpen up?
vegplot

Re: Best easy to use sharpening 'thing' for tools

Piggyphile wrote:
Tim and I (as many know) are planning to move to our Spanish smallholding as soon as we sell the house. We have inherited loads of very old tools some of which we can't name. There are ancient scythes, billhooks and 'spanish things'.
As we are numpty sharpeners with only a knife sharpener to our name can anyone recommend a good tool sharpener which anyone can use?
Ideally it will have twin blades set at the correct angle so we just shove implements into it, rub them up and down a bit and it does the rest. Single stones/steels all seem to need a good knowledge of angles.
It has to be better to sharpen the rusty stuff than buy brand new, doesn't it?
Will rusty blades sharpen up?


You'll need more than one sharpener to cover the range of tools you have and yes it's far better to sharpen than buy new, unless the blade is really tired or no longer takes an edge. Rusty blades sharpen well, just clean off any excess rust.

I suggest the following:

Medium and fine flat files
Dry stone (various grades available)
Oil or water stones (diamond sharpeners are getting cheaper)
Bench grinder is useful for large bladed tools such as axes
Peening kit of thin bladed tools such as scythe blades

I sense an article in the making.
Jo S

Re: Best easy to use sharpening 'thing' for tools

vegplot wrote:
I sense an article in the making.


Oooh, yes please Very Happy
vegplot

Re: Best easy to use sharpening 'thing' for tools

bring me sunshine wrote:
vegplot wrote:
I sense an article in the making.


Oooh, yes please Very Happy


It will take a while to write as there are sooo many options.

What tools do people find they need to sharpen most often? I'm guessing it's hand tools such as axes, bill hooks, fag hooks, scythe blades etc.
Jo S

For me, it's the push lawnmower, the sythe and the clippy cutty things I use to cut the bracken / balsam etc (having a moment, can't think what they're called ... brain wants me to type "big scissor things" Embarassed Embarassed Embarassed Embarassed Embarassed Embarassed )
vegplot

Shears?
Jo S

vegplot wrote:
Shears?


THANK YOU!!!!!!!!! Embarassed
Bulgarianlily

Chisels.
judith

Nah. Chisels are useless for cutting bracken.
Barefoot Andrew

Piggyphile, would you mind if I shifted this thread into 'authors corner' given it seems to have hints of articleness about it?
A.
vegplot

Barefoot Andrew wrote:
Piggyphile, would you mind if I shifted this thread into 'authors corner' given it seems to have hints of articleness about it?
A.


I bet your place is very neat and tidy.
Barefoot Andrew

*looks at state of desk* Hmm...
A.
Jo S

judith wrote:
Nah. Chisels are useless for cutting bracken.


Ok, that's it: does anyone know where I can get a waterproof keyboard?! Laughing Laughing
vegplot

bring me sunshine wrote:
judith wrote:
Nah. Chisels are useless for cutting bracken.


Ok, that's it: does anyone know where I can get a waterproof keyboard?! Laughing Laughing


No, no I can't. I wrote it then erased it.
Jo S

vegplot wrote:
bring me sunshine wrote:
judith wrote:
Nah. Chisels are useless for cutting bracken.


Ok, that's it: does anyone know where I can get a waterproof keyboard?! Laughing Laughing


No, no I can't. I wrote it then erased it.


Shocked Laughing Laughing Embarassed
dpack

as above with also cigar shaped carborundum for inside curves
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i tried to start writing a sharpening article but it would take a book to cover everything from flint to sushi knife . my main problems were trying to describe how things should feel if you are getting it correctly ground to shape for each edge/part of edge .some tools need different edges at different places on the blade ,different metalsin the same tool need different edges ,different jobs and different materials with the same tool need different edges
im not sure i haven even scratched the surface with the complexities ,i recon it took me years to get competant with a bevel chisel or strait single or double edge blade ,curved blades and gouges take more practise ,im still working on axe technique
saws are easy with a guide rig and a little file

the katana smiths have specialist sharpeners with a long apprenticeship and only masters are allowed near posh swords

it was good to see all of us on the butchery jerky course at ginkotree's place were teaching sharpening to our trainee cutters as we went along .

i recon there is scope for "an expert guide as to how to sharpen everything"but it will be a huge document ,"basic sharpening" might ruin a lot of tools and cause accidents
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