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troyannick

Bulgaria

Folks
Just been in Bulgaria in the mountains for 4 months recharging,reassessing and watching and learning how things work in a real rural community.On the face of it the people look poor but look beyond and you find a very different story.They grow produce for themselves then find a niche market to sell on or barter.
They have very pronounced seasons so theres always a changing scene, and they tend to move around their property ending up in one space for the winter as it gets very very cold.
Fuel is wood, lighting electricity and theres a council tax of about 20 pound a year for bins, street lighting, snow ploughs makes you wonder where our council tax goes cos everything functions.
September is a good month where the apples are collected and after the potatoes, then the alchahol production brandy from apples and wine from grapes.
Then the wood stocks are really topped up either bought or as Ive discovered alot of people have woods, and many ' collect ' wood.
And the weather.......stunning no wind mostly blue skies
gz

How far are you from Bulgarian Lily? Smile
Bulgarianlily

My question too!

It is also the sense of a live real community that we love, a working village where everyone is involved and everyone grows their own. We have received so much care and love from our neighbours here, it is impossible to compare it with the UK.

Just checked previous posts and I think you are in the stara planina, quite some distance from us here on the western edge of the Rhodope.
gz

but a lot nearer than the rest of us Laughing
Hairyloon

Whenever I read posts here from foreign parts, I can't help wondering about import-export opportunities.

I can't imagine we've got anything here that you'd want to import though. Sad
troyannick

Im a good way away from BG lily I passed through your way a few years ago when te tunnel to Greece first opened went past the lakes, through Gotse Delchev, wish I hadnt though the Greeks were a bit rude on the border and was paying 4 euros for a beer in Kavala.
Im in the Stara Planina just outside Troyan been there since 2003 though not full time.Love the place.
Hairy loon there are export opportunities, Ive been taking 4x4 s down every year and caravans, car spares, computers and now the Bulgarians are buying stuff from ebay through me though just on a small scale.Certain foods are cheaper here Im taking a load of rice, olive oil which is really expensive, toilet rolls,shower gells, tea, and various other things which I barter for local produce.
Used items are much more available here eg Im taking a few good chainsaws next time as well.
Whats cheap in BG as Im sure Lil will tell you is the day to day cost of living, taxes insurances you can live on next to nothing.
Nick

Whenever I read posts here from foreign parts, I can't help wondering about import-export opportunities.

I can't imagine we've got anything here that you'd want to import though. Sad


Marmite.
alice

Norman Wisdom.
sean

That's the Albanian's isn't it? Or do Bulgarians like him too?
alice

Dunno. Do they they wear curly slippers? Anyway, it's all 'abroad'. Which is ghastly.
Wink
sean

I reckon they'd like Patum Peperium if they were given the opportunity. Should the diplomatic corps be doing something about it?
Green Rosie

I reckon they'd like Patum Peperium if they were given the opportunity. Should the diplomatic corps be doing something about it?


*sigh* - now has huge desire for toast and Gentleman's Relish Rolling Eyes
Went

Sadly, this is one of many that provide heinz baked beans, marmite and whatever else takes your fancy:

http://www.britishcornershop.co.uk/
Bulgarianlily

After five years here, the only shopping list we have is the odd jar of marmite and golden syrup. Everything else is available here including baked beans for those that want them! Oh except for seville oranges, can't get them. Nick

I didn't pick Marmite randomly, you know. Wink

I'm probably coming over in February. I can smuggle some over and post it if you're short.
Hairyloon

I didn't pick Marmite randomly, you know. Wink

I'm probably coming over in February. I can smuggle some over and post it if you're short.
I don't believe it is restricted, why would you have to smuggle it?
Nick

Baggage space and weight is restricted. If my wife finds out... Bulgarianlily

Thanks, I will try and remember to ask if there is something very small I need desparately, are you coming anywhere near us? Duckhead

I have been trying to buy a cheap, less than 1000 Eu car, for a while now. I saw a load of likely examples lately in front of a car selling place. I asked the boss about one of them and he said no. "They aren't fit for the road in Italy so we are sending them to Bulgaria". I asked again and he refused to sell it to me. He said he would make more money sending them to Bulgaria. Whats that all about then? Duckhead

It reminds me of when my mate used to give lodgings to Russians that were sending Skodas back to Russia Nick

Thanks, I will try and remember to ask if there is something very small I need desparately, are you coming anywhere near us?

If we come, Bansko, but it's a big if currently.
Hairyloon

Thanks, I will try and remember to ask if there is something very small I need desparately, are you coming anywhere near us?
Alternatively, if you can find enough customers for a van-load...
Bulgarianlily

Let us know if you come to Bansko, and we will meet up for a meal maybe? That is only 40 mins away.

Bulgaria is currently awash with old rhd 4x4 from the UK, adding to the dangers of mad drivers overtaking on blind bends.... in the last seven years our village has gone from three old russian trucks and a handful of ladas to 10 times that many cars, mainly old vw golfs.
troyannick

Fair point Lil but its the drivers that are dangerous not the cars Ive seen about 10 crashes in the last couple of months all due to driving too fast on icy roads, theres something about Bulgarians and cars, they are such calm and careful people but put them behind a steering wheel........ Hairyloon

I take it you drive on the right over there, so British cars are not so clever? Nick

They do, and the police stop you with ping pong bats when yo speed, and fine you. I got hit for over a fiver when I got a tug. No receipt, or paperwork was offered, and I thought it inappropriate to ask. troyannick

If you havent done anything wrong dont give the cops any money, you can ask to pay fines in the correct office in town and try and waste as much of their time as possible by acting daft, they more often than not get fed up. However if you are speeding and they have the camera with your speed which they will show you then a fiver aint too bad, no points and off you go. Nick

33 in a 30, not carrying my passport, and either hand over a fiver, or go with them, neither of us speaking a word or the others language, to the police station 30 miles away, during a holiday. I paid, and chalked it up to experience. Reckon they had a few beers on me that night. troyannick

Anyway to get back to downsizing which is what the website is about Bulgaria offers a great opportunity for real downsizing and organic self sufficiency on a level which you will struggle to find anywhere else in Europe.You can still buy a house with a chunk of land for 10 grand downwards, I can go to our community wheely bin and it will be more empty than the last time I went there, nothing is wasted.We save all our scraps for the various animals, anything combustible is burned, plastic bottlles are reused which only really leaves plastic packaging which we dont have a lot of.Our bin got emptied once in 4 months and it wasnt even half full. Went

Sounds great but a big challenge and culture swap along the way no doubt. Not everyone can hack it. Many people come to this part of Spain to do just that but find it a real struggle and much harder work than first anticipated. I wish you well, it sounds as though you are fitting in well. troyannick

yeah, though lived in Gibraltar and Andalucia for 8 years and never got used to the culture or felt quite right whereas I do in BG, they have more in common with us,they are very quiet calm people but nutty as a fruitcake.Of course there are differences but what they do have is great community and fantastic neighbour skills., which i guess you need when you rely upon each other so much. gofarmer

We head back to our Bulgarian home for 5 months in a couple of weeks. Can't wait! gofarmer

Well now back in Bulgaria and not stopped raining! Managed to get veggie garden dug over and everything planted in the odd dry afternoon. Even got fire lit........only just stopped raining and sun is trying to peak through.... Went

Your weather should pick up a bit from now, ours has been unusually cool but also improving. gofarmer

Hope so....loads to do in gardens but can't get outside! Very unusually wet and cold for this time of year. Usually jumping into pool and BBQs every night!
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