silkiie
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chickens in council propertyi have 2 silkies that i keep at the bottom of my garden, the male is getting quite noisey,not sure on the rules on keeping chickens in council property, worried someone will complain,is there a way to stop him crowing so much 
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Helen M
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I have been advised that you can try to keep him in the dark at night and to put him in a box small enough that he can't stretch his neck to crow. as for how efficient this method is I have no idea as I've not tried either as I know a cockerel can crow whenever it wants to regardless of light. I also wouldn't want to keep a proud cockerel in a restrictive box. When I first started keeping chooks in the garden I spoke to a couple of the neighbours and was told "well we have the sheep bleating all night so a cock would make a nice change" however I have had neighbour hassles and this only started when I got the chooks. So I have not yet risked the cockerel dilemma in the garden. In the place I work I also have poultry that includes a couple of fellas. Personally I don't find the crowing a particularly noisy problem but I don't think my neighbours would agree.
I would advise a chat with the neighbours first and formost so they know you are approachable regarding them. A few free eggs work wonders....and see what happens 
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Woodburner
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Silkies aren't as loud as LF by a long way, but if you have a neighbour that likes to cause trouble, the noise level will be irrelevant. 
I agree about the box. If it stops him from lifting his head he will just stick it out in front, and if the box is so small that he can't do that then it's too small to be humane. (imho)
Light levels can make a difference, but I doubt very much that he will keep quiet once the morning chorus gets going.
Soundproofing -insulating might help both muffling him and stop him hearing the dawn chorus and other outside noises. Would it be possible to keep him in a (decent sized) box inside the coop?
It's a bit late now (for both of us!) but keeping his location/your ownership of him secret would have helped. My NN didn't know where my LF LS boy was until someone let slip, and so didn't know who to complain about. A cockerel in a coop, or even in the open is surprisingly hard to locate. I remember hearing one as a child going to and from school, but it was only recently that I found out where he was. He was only a few hundred feet away from our house!
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silkiie
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thanks for the advise guys.
my nieghbours either side are lovely and dont mind the noise,which is great , two nieghbours to the right have chooks themselfs,it is a lady 2 doors up  , though she finds it ok for her son to ride on of those bloody monkey bikes up and down the street that noise is annoying, even the nieghbours across the road dont mind his noise, though i do cover the coop up at night and take it off around 8am,but he does it all day is this the norm??????? thanks for listening to my rant , feel much better now 
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12Bore
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| silkiie wrote: | thanks for the advise guys.
my nieghbours either side are lovely and dont mind the noise,which is great , two nieghbours to the right have chooks themselfs,it is a lady 2 doors up , though she finds it ok for her son to ride on of those bloody monkey bikes up and down the street that noise is annoying, even the nieghbours across the road dont mind his noise, though i do cover the coop up at night and take it off around 8am,but he does it all day is this the norm??????? thanks for listening to my rant , feel much better now |
Age, crash helmet, MOT, insurance? People in glass houses etc.. 
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silkiie
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14, no helmet, no insurance,no mot, by the noise of the bloody bike!!!!!!
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john of wessex
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Quick chat with the Rozzers then. They can go in & sieze the bike.
And the Council can take posession proceedings
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Shan
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and the neighbour decides to get vindictive and makes noise complanits to the council...
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Hairyloon
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| Shan wrote: | | and the neighbour decides to get vindictive and makes noise complanits to the council... |
It is a sad sad world when we live in fear of what our neighbours might do.
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mochyn
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| Shan wrote: | | and the neighbour decides to get vindictive and makes noise complanits to the council... |
Only if they know who dropped them in it to start with... 
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VM
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Are you in town, village, other?
Here in Manchester you can keep chickens but not cockerels anywhere in the city, regardless of whether you are in council or private property.
If that's the case where you are then if the neighbour complains, your cockerel will have to go. If no bye-law preventing cockerels then it will just be a question of the noise level. You can't really stop him crowing though - it's what they do, isn't it?
Is the problem neighbour one you can talk to/negotiate with or not? Could you live with her son's bike noise if she could live with your cockerel's crowing? Or conversely, would you agree to get rid of bird if son got rid of bike??
If not, inform on son to Rozzers anyway, as people suggested! And hope for the best with crowing...
Perhaps she is not someone likely to complain as she may know that people might complain about her / her son.
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mark
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this is so local - it will depend on local council rules - and any condition made in the lease - or in the deeds of the property.
Sometimes you can have council property which is on land leased or bought from an estate where the seller or landlord made it a condition of the sale or of the lease that there is no livestock kept
Other times everything ios OK so long as their is no nuisance caused.
Most people would think it was reasonable to keep chickens in a residential area so long as their is enough space and they are kept clean. A cockeral is another matter and while tolerated in a rural environment is not really acceptable to most people in an urban environment where houses are closer and people are often working night or late shifts and needing to sleep in the morning.
I would say in that case you need to cultivate good relationships with your neighbours as you are relying on them not to exercise their rights.
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2steps
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We were allowed chickens but no cockerel
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jenn
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It is my understanding that you can keep up to 6 hens but no cockeral in social housing obviously depending on the size of the garden
Mind you we have 11 hens and 5 cockerals that crow all day but we have no neighbours thank god and we are very different from the usual council properties, not to mention the ducks etc.
I personally would have a word with the noddy boxes if your neighbour complains about your chooks. You are not doing anything illegal her son is if he has none of the requisities by law regarding his squalk box.
jenn
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Cathryn
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You know, we all have to make compromises in our life so that we can live happily with each other. Hopefully you will not have to get rid of your cockerel and will become at least a smiling and nodding friend with the neighbour who currently finds it a nuisance. (Why does she find it a nuisance?) The fourteen year old child is hopefully not risking his life too much and will grow into a decent member of society.
(My disclaimer. I have no idea about the law relating to bikes and am only assuming that you are talking about those rather ridiculous tiny ones? It might be better for him if someone does have a word, it might not.)
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