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wellington womble
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Commercial hazel orchard infoIf, hypothetically speaking, I were thinking of planting a small, commercial hazelnut orchard, where might I find out more about starting such a venture?
I’m thinking of things like how nuts are sold and in what sort of quantities, yields per acre, what sort of acreage might be a viable venture, what sort of man hours are needed and how are they distributed, (ie will I need staff and is it going to work for us to living offsite) is harvesting usually outsourced or is machinery bought or hired, and for how much. Not so much ‘how to plant trees’, because I can figure that out later, if the whole project is viable (although I have just watched a very informative video on Oregon Hazel orchards, which suggested, among other things, planting the trees with the roots pointing downwards!) I’m specifically looking for info about UK Hazel production, not Oregon.
It will be a small ‘working retirement’ sort of affair. I don’t need to make a living off it, but I’d like it to make a reasonable return on my investment.
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Mistress Rose
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It depends on what you want the hazel for. If it is for nuts, than you are talking about a different sort of plant to the normal hazel grown in the UK. I don't know much about it, but think Kentish cob nuts are a good place to go looking. You will have a problem with squirrels as they tend to take the nuts before they are mature and can seriously damage any crop.
If you are looking to sell rods, you can rent out a good coup for a few hundred pounds an acre to be cut by the person renting it. Deer fencing will be necessary, and cutting every 5-7 years depending on what the rods are used for, how hazel grows on the site and weather.
In either case it will take the plants a good few years to establish. The ones we have planted in our garden took at least 10 years to get to cutting stage, but we have a thin soil over solid chalk, so it might be a bit better on better soil.
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tahir
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we have 226 hazels, the year before last we had s huge crop so thought about selling them, I could get 3.40 p/kg, it takes about 15-20 mins to pick a kilo.
don't do it thinking it'll bring in any income unless you're going to get a crew of eastern Europeans in to pick.
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Mistress Rose
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What variety do you have Tahir? Do you coppice them every so often, or leave them to grow? If you coppice them, do they make reasonable splitting rods? Sorry so many questions, but we grow hazel for the rods and I don't know too much about them as a nut crop.
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wellington womble
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we have 226 hazels, the year before last we had s huge crop so thought about selling them, I could get 3.40 p/kg, it takes about 15-20 mins to pick a kilo.
don't do it thinking it'll bring in any income unless you're going to get a crew of eastern Europeans in to pick. |
You mean I can’t get one of these?
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=Y8QSM2D_KZ0
How much ground do you have your trees on, Tahir? I was thinking (vaguely) of 5-10 acres. You pick by hand, rather than waiting for nuts to fall and raking? (I’d wondered if it was generally too wet here to do that)
I was thinking of a specialist nut variety, not coppice. Nuts are grown differently, with a ‘tree’ shape instead of a coppice stool. I’m aware it will be a long term venture, and I’m definitely planning on controlling squirrels. What I don’t know is what sort of size it would need to be viable, how much time it might take, what sort of market there might be and whether harvesting can be outsourced (as is common for hay or wheat). I’m fairly sure it wouldn’t be viable by hand.
If it turns out you need 200 acres and 600k of machinery to even think of making a profit, then it obviously won’t be for us. If you need to harvest in August or Hand pick, it probably won’t be for us. But if you can hire harvest kit in September, and make a small profit selling wholesale from 5-10 acres it might be something that works for us. It needn’t be a living, but it also won’t be a hobby.
I’m just kicking around ideas at the moment, but one has to start somewhere, with something.
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