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jema

Do we dump recent and or popular articles from front page?

They were there at least in part as people could not navigate easily down to the articles. Now I think that is no longer an issue.
Bugs

Kill both.
bagpuss

I think editors choice is more useful than recent
tahir

Kill both
Bugs

bagpuss wrote:
I think editors choice is more useful than recent


The cat speaks wisely Very Happy
jema

Dumped, and I am feeling really pleased with the new look Smile
tahir

V good but it still needs separators between sections
dougal

I'm going to be a heretic and say that I think that "popular" articles would be a good thing to wave at newcomers... who ought to turn up on the front page...
And similarly "Editor's choice" ought to be a showcase of whats best... again the sort of thing to wave at visitors...
(But not top left!)
Just my two euro cents worth! Very Happy
cab

Trouble with 'popular' articles is that we ended up with things like 'top ten wild foods for winter' and 'top ten wild mushrooms for a beginner ' (excellent articles, by the way, whoever wrote them must be something special) lingering way past their seasonal usefulness.
macatsuma

i know i'm new and all that and probably being a bit on the numb side but how do i find out current threads, i mean yes i have topics i'm interested in more than other but surely debate is livelier and more inclusive if its alive. Won't stuff just disappear off into the ether if folk don't know whats being talked about? or should i have just curtailed my sentance at the "a bit numb" stage?
jema

"View Latest Posts" will show you the current topics. You need to have been around a little while for that to work for you.

Recoding it, to show posts in the last day has crossed my mind!
Bugs

dougal wrote:
I'm going to be a heretic and say that I think that "popular" articles would be a good thing to wave at newcomers..."Editor's choice" ought to be a showcase of whats best...


But that would make them both the same thing Shocked

I put up an explanation elsewhere on this board about the Editor's choice bit because it's not set in stone but I thought people would want an idea of what it's meant to be. Only did it this am so you might not have seen it.

Popular articles might be an idea - sort of top ten useful articles as voted by DS members - but most of them have a bit of a seasonalness about them, for example chickens are a bit springy, and wine making summery, and mushrooms autumnal...as Cab says we can't just go on the views because it means some old stalwarts get top billing, like Wild Foods in Winter which the author, a known troublemaker, got lucky on placement wise
Northern_Lad

Looks good with them both dumped.

What's going on with the 'home' at the top of the page? Missing identifiers?
cab

Bugs wrote:
...as Cab says we can't just go on the views because it means some old stalwarts get top billing, like Wild Foods in Winter which the author, a known troublemaker, got lucky on placement wise


Troublemaker? Here? Where?
jema

Northern_Lad wrote:
Looks good with them both dumped.

What's going on with the 'home' at the top of the page? Missing identifiers?


Have killed that off.
dougal

Bugs wrote:
dougal wrote:
I'm going to be a heretic and say that I think that "popular" articles would be a good thing to wave at newcomers..."Editor's choice" ought to be a showcase of whats best...


But that would make them both the same thing Shocked


I'd been thinking that "popular" was auto-generated on a page 'hits' count, (over a short enough interval that a popular winter article wasn't still showing strongly in midsummer, despite not having been accessed at all for months) and Ed's choice was a selection of what the site was most proud of that was currently relevant.

**Starting from the assumption that the front page should be designed to interest the arriving *stranger* and tempt them further in**
the more I think about it, one should offer the *stranger* a smorgasbord of the articles that best represent what the site is about, (obviously seasonally relevant, and varied occasionally - hey could it handle 4 random ones from an occasionally changed list of say 20?)

Newcomers shouldn't be interested in particular articles for their *novelty* -- its **ALL** new to them. Regulars would be interested in *new* articles, not newcomers...
Be clear about the target market, then choose things, find ways, to appeal to that market...
jema

dougal wrote:

I'd been thinking that "popular" was auto-generated on a page 'hits' count, (over a short enough interval that a popular winter article wasn't still showing strongly in midsummer, despite not having been accessed at all for months)


Popular does not work that way Sad

We are building a site using Mambo which is a great system, but somethings cannot be done with it, without heavy hacking.

We have done a lot of extras, I think I have written 7 custom modules and components for the site now. Not to mention the forum integration.

But with the way I have added things, if Mambo 5.0 comes along, we whould be able to upgrade smoothly. A decently worked "Popular" article would be the sort of hack that would stop us upgrading Sad
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