Brownbear
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Do you believe a word they say?Thought it might be interesting to know whether anyone trusts politicians at all. Listing only the two who stand any chance of forming a government, leaving out the Libs as they're not in the running and also because they have Lembit Opik as an MP.
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Jamanda
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I think both of them tell the version of the truth they want you to believe. I don't think most of what they say is out and out lies, but it all needs taking with a pinch of salt. And I don't think that is anything new.
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Cathryn
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I think they want to believe what they say but are derailed by the whole cumbersome ummm, behemoth that is already in place and difficult to shift.
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Chez
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What Jamanda said. And Lembit is my MP 
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Brownbear
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| Chez wrote: | | Lembit is my MP |
How awful for you. However, it must make the thought of being marmalised by a giant interplanetary rock just a tad less unbearable.
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Nanny
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i dont' think any of them tell the truth about anything
they are opposite sides of a circle and move their policies round and round and round
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Andy B
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| Jamanda wrote: | | I think both of them tell the version of the truth they want you to believe. I don't think most of what they say is out and out lies, but it all needs taking with a pinch of salt. And I don't think that is anything new. |
If you leave enough information out, it becomes a lie.
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Chez
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| Brownbear wrote: | | Chez wrote: | | Lembit is my MP |
How awful for you. However, it must make the thought of being marmalised by a giant interplanetary rock just a tad less unbearable. |
I don't actually think he's too horrific at local level. But the gap-toothed grin makes my elbows tingle - in a bad way.
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JB
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I voted Conservative but that's largely because they're not in power. I'm more inclined to trust the opposition, whoever they are at the time, because they have no vested interest in spinning things and wearing rose tinted glasses.
I'm also less inclined to beleive a party the longer they are in power. They seem to reach a point where they have run out of ideas and so substitiute the appearance of activity for real ideas and progress. At this point you get ludicrous laws and initiatives justified on the flimsiest of basis (42 days terror legislation, poll tax, etc.)
Having said that I would not be so cynical to say that politicians are inherently lying or self interested. I suspect that most of them genuinely do what they do because they think it is right, because they think they can help. At the same time the party system sours them so they are all in a position where the only way they can do what they beleive is right is to be part of an organisation which will not do right. What I'd like to see is a political party who admit that there isn't a need to introduce extra laws just because they can and haven't done anything this week.
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mochyn
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| Mochyn wrote: | | He's ours too, and judith's. I'd say he's eccentric (because I'm feeling generous today). |
My adjective would be slightly less generous.
He does appear to work very hard for the constituency, though. He has done a lot of lobbying on the broadband front for us.
Oooh dear. Mochyn, I appear to have abused my modding superpower and edited you, rather than quoting. 
Sorry. Will you ever forgive me?
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Chez
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| mochyn wrote: | | He's ours too, and judith's. I'd say he's eccentric (because I'm feeling generous today). |
I think that's probably one of the minimum requirements for standing for Parliament in the first place, isn't it? . But yes, I know what you mean.
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lettucewoman
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I was very keen to get into politics when younger - however the only party who made any sense to me then were the liberals (and then the lib dems...I was a founding member with a certificate and badge to prove it!!) 
Which menat that apart from local politics I had no real chance where I lived.
I liked the libs because they tried to be open about things...such as how they would fund reform and the country as a whole - non of this cutting taxes for the rich guys, instead honesty about a penny on tax to help everyone.
However it now appears to me that both "new labour" and the tories are plundering the middle ground, leaving the libs with nothing else to say. Which to me means they got it right in the first place.
I eventually left the party because at local (and to a certain extent national) level they were far too disorganised...I was supposed to be standing as county councillor but they sent in my application for approval too late, which meant I ended up as the agent to the original candidate, who hadn't wanted to stand again in the first place!!! (she lost)
I feel let down now by all politicians...no one seems to genuinly want to do anything for anyone... 
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JB
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| lettucewoman wrote: | | I liked the libs because they tried to be open about things...such as how they would fund reform and the country as a whole - non of this cutting taxes for the rich guys, instead honesty about a penny on tax to help everyone. |
I've always thought that the lib dems can afford to be open and honest as, having almost no real chance of widespread electroal success, they have nothing to lose by being so open.
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Jonnyboy
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| JB wrote: |
I've always thought that the lib dems can afford to be open and honest as, having almost no real chance of widespread electroal success, they have nothing to lose by being so open. |
Really? ever heard them say that they can't win a general election? 
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JB
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| Jonnyboy wrote: | | JB wrote: |
I've always thought that the lib dems can afford to be open and honest as, having almost no real chance of widespread electroal success, they have nothing to lose by being so open. |
Really? ever heard them say that they can't win a general election? |
OK, apart from that bit
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Jonnyboy
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dpack
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how interesting
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