| Archive for Downsizer For an ethical approach to consumption |
| Blue Sky |
Downsizer AtlasJust a quick thought. Should we have a downsizer Frappr account?I think it was Dave and Andy (selfsufficientish) that did one on their site a while back and it looked rather useful. Could we have one for Downsizer so that we can get an overview of where our fellow members are located? I've just spent ages looking for Pricey on the "Dorset/Hants border" wherever that may be to see if he is anywhere near Poole. If we were to have a member map - volluntary input of course, then at least it might make trading/swapping/bartering a tad easier for some of our traders and buyers alike. |
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| Nick |
I know I'd find it useful. | ||||||||
| sean |
I thought you'd got everyone's addresses loaded into your sat-nav by now. | ||||||||
| Nick |
Actually, only Rob's. | ||||||||
| Blue Sky |
Well I got one (but only me on it so far  )
It is here I think Does this even work??? |
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| Penny Outskirts |
That's good 
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| lettucewoman |
Yes - we are on it now! (meg an ted aka lettucewoman and tomatoman)
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| pricey |
What Rob let's you use his sat nav, why's rob got all our addresses 
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| pricey |
I have just moved to the usa help! | ||||||||
| pricey |
just been living in NZ, then london then scotland, now back to the usa  
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| pricey |
Oh well we have just moved to Portugal, seems to find that one.
It is New Milton that is confusing it, there are alot of them in usa. So now you can all see where we will be when we Finally move. |
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| Blue Sky |
(sorry) Well I'll be blown .... it DOES work
Excellent Now let's have some more location posters then Tahir can (somehow) fit it into the main front page 
By the way Pricey, If it keeps flicking you about the country or even around the world all you need to do is press the autoplay [stop] button. (I think) Edited out expletives. Sorry I got rather excited. 
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| chez |
I've managed it, I think. No expletives required  .
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| madmonk |
Oh b******s I think I've just moved France to Milton Keynes
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| dougal |
There's some very strange 'mapping' going on... I see that Gervase's 'wales' is between Sheffield and Worksop... and strangely that that there are "dragons" in mid-Wales  which I had rather expected to be lighting up like a Clearasil advert by now...
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| madmonk |
Panic over France is now back in place
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| alisjs |
tried to add me but how do you move the pin? | ||||||||
| dougal |
Well... I think that's a slightly random! I zoomed well in, and clicked on my button and then the "Move this pin" coloured link... and then clicked on where I'd rather it was. I ended up fairly close after a lot of trying, but some of my clicks resulted in it being placed several miles away... I wonder what it would make of a postcode + UK in the location text box? |
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| pricey |
I still cant put in New milton, Hants, england.
But Pedrogao Grande goes in first time, so we have moved. Great Idea by the way Simon, knowing where everyone is, is good ,they have a similar thing on expats Portugal. |
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| chez |
It barfed on my postcode. It worked out where Welshpool was eventually though, after a few goes of trying to put me in Cardiff. | ||||||||
| dougal |
I tried it with my postcode and it moved me to Wallsend!
And I still can't get it within a mile - but its first effort at the town ends up several miles away... ho, hum... I wonder about all the anonymous London entries and "AOL" just offshore from the Isle of Man?
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| Blue Sky |
I wish you blinking well had! The weather might be a bit better there.
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| Blue Sky |
Just click the "move this pin" text and enter your flippin' postcode in the location box. Dougal, I am dissapointed with you
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| Blue Sky |
Oh, well it appears to work with french postal codes. Sorry Chez. Keep trying folks! |
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| sean |
It appears to hate me.  Maybe Mandy can have a go in a bit.
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| Blue Sky |
Must be your Devonshire accent
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| jamanda |
I've done it - but I couldn't get a photo on. It keeps getting to 90% then gettimg stuck. |
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| Bernie66 |
It won't let me put an email address in, it gives me *'*' instead of the *@* I need, and then laughs and throws me out.
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| Penny Outskirts |
It did that for me, then I used a smaller photo (one that was avatar sized) and it seemed to work - may of course have just been luck, but perhaps worth a try if you haven't? | ||||||||
| Penny Outskirts |
Use the number two key with the shift pressed down
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| Bernie66 |
Wasn't putting photo in then, didn't get that far, haven't got a photo anyway
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| Bernie66 |
No good Penny. I am a halfwit tonight. |
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| Blue Sky |
I got that aswell Bernie I put it down to it picking up on my IP address and associating my ENGLISH keyboard with the french 
Try putting a " (that is the symbol above the 2) in place of the @ and you should be OK |
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| Bernie66 |
Nah, I asked young Penny to have a go and she sorted it out in seconds.. young and gifted
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| Blue Sky |
Sorry Penny, I just realised you already tried to teach him that.
Beaten to the post again ... Story of my life today
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| Penny Outskirts |
Don't worry pet - you're looking very tasty today, so a little slowness is totally forgiven
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| Jb |
No I think it does that for everyone. Somehow it seems to have mapped everyones keyboard to a US (or French? ) layout |
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| jamanda |
Still can't get the photo on. Never mind.
My keyboard has the " and @ the wrong way round anyway. |
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| dougal |
Ahem. *No* not everyone. That particular problem doesn't arise on the Mac. My guess is that its some sort of quirk in the Windoze implementation of Java/Javascript that is being used to validate each keypress... Something like assuming all PC's have a US keyboard...
Have you perhaps a US keyboard (no £ sign) that you are telling the PC is a UK keyboard so that shift-3 gives you £ ?? |
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| sean |
Nah, it's an old PC keyboard being used with a Mac. | ||||||||
| dougal |
OK, well it is a pity that British Windows uses a non (ISO) standard layout, while British Mac does use an ISO standard layout... But I don't think its the end of the world. http://www.gyford.com/phil/writing/2005/11/20/using_a_british.php Like the man says, just don't use any of the odd punctuation characters in your login password. (Nice idea to just put the special layout in the individual *user's* library...) You probably already know about the system preference for the order of the Command and Option keys from the Windows and Alt keys. |
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| Gervase |
Don't worry, you soon get used to it. It's what I use. |
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| dougal |
But you don't have to "get used to it". If you want what you *are* used to (or you want the keycaps and their output to tie up - a reasonable expectation) you *can* have it! If its the only physical keyboard attached (its simpler that way) and everyone agrees on using the same layout, put the windows layout (linked above) into the Keyboard Layouts folder inside the Library folder at the top level (in the window for your hard disk). That makes it available (to all User accounts). There are dozens of layouts installed by Apple, including 3 Afgan variants, a couple of Bulgerian ones, and all the way to one Welsh one ( really).
Selecting your Windows layout means a trip to the International preference panel and the tab for the Input Menu. Simplest would be to then 'tick' British Windows and 'untick' British (and anything else, like US that might be ticked). And that'll do you. For folk with different preferences sharing the computer its a little more complicated. But not much. |
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| Cathryn |
There's no room Don't think I have got a photo of me as it is usually me holding the camera. Will go and have a look.
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| Northern_Lad |
They do unless the get the tippex out on the keyboard. Changing the location will only change the translation of which key does what, not what the look like when you're hitting them. |
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| Gervase |
Indeed. fortunately the keys on this keyboard are so covered with plaster, mastic, tea, small-boy-matter and gubbins that you can't see what half of them are meant to be. Ideal for touch-typists. |
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| dougal |
Ummm. Have a re-read of the thread. Gervase and Jamanda are using Windows keyboards with Macs. On those keyboards Shift-2 is marked as " but delivers @ when you tell the Mac the fiction that it has a British-Mac keyboard attached. My suggestion was that they tell the Mac the truth that a British-Windows keyboard was attached. That will enable Shift-2 to deliver " exactly as marked on the key. And all the other keys to work exactly as marked. The only problem arises when people choose a particular keyboard, perhaps because of its 'feel', but actually *want* to use a layout different to what is marked on the bit of hardware that they have chosen for other reasons. In which case, rather than resorting to Tippex, I'd refer them to these people http://www.hooleon.com/ And even on a PC, don't do your on-screen corrections with Tippex...
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| jamanda |
Had a look at that link, but the screen I get for clicking "keyboard & mouse" in system preferences looks nothing like the one shown. I suppose it doesn't matter too much. I tend to have more of a problem not automatically reversing them when I'm on my school computer. |
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| CodyT07 |
I'm the only one in my country... | ||||||||
| dougal |
1/ Thats the wrong bit of that linked page. You need to be working with "International" preferences - 'cos you've got a 'furrin' keyboard. 2/ The screenshot is after clicking the "Modifier keys" button in the Keyboard panel in 10.4 - you weren't bothered about rearranging control/alt/windows... 3/ Rather than hijack the atlas thread, PM me if you are still bothered, or else (over the kitchen table) ask a mod to shift this discussion to its own thread - probably under IT.
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| dougal |
Shouldn't let that bother you. I expect most of us feel that way from time to time!
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| CodyT07 |
Actually I'm the only one on the other side of the world. |
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| Gervase |
It may remap my Mac, but it won't remap my brain - and as I have touch-typed for 20 years on a Mac keyboard, I'm far too old to have my fingers relearn the positions. Hence the fact that it doesn't really matter what's written on the keys - the same old garbage still fills the screen!
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| dougal |
Yes, as I said...
If your keyboard really is covered in (lime) plaster, etc, one possible (cheap but excellent) replacement you might consider is one of the old Apple ADB "extended keyboards" plus a USB/ADB converter. Those were much less stylish than the current offerings, but much better for typists. Total eBay cost maybe £15. (Keyboard here is yours for the postage - I have a few.) I do wish some mod would shift the keyboard hijack to another thread. Gervase, why are you mapped as being somewhere near Sheffield rather than in Wales where "there be dragons"? Or in the absence of an asbestos shield, is that a safe distance? Is it possible for anyone to 'mod' the map and tidy/remove the multiple un-named entries? |
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| kaz |
Did the map ever get up and going?
We are thinking of having one for our forum but it sounds scary
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| jamanda |
Yes. There's a link to it in Simon's first post on the first page of this thread. |
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| Barefoot Andrew |
Excellent idea. I'll add myself soon.. need sort out a digital pic of myself first that isn't too horrific
A. |
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| dougal |
But last time I looked, it needed an awful lot of editing... |