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jema

Downsizer offline tomorrow.

A once in a lifetime opportunity to get a life Smile

As I'm moving downsizer.net to a faster server.
Northern_Lad

Nnnnnnnnnnooooooooooooooooooooooooo........

Oh, hang on, I'll be playing cricket then. Carry on.
alisjs

out for a very long walk then..........might do us all good!!!
Simon

NO! How will I cope? Where will we hide?
Chez

I'll try and go in to labour tomorrow then, it'll while away the hours Smile.
Frewen

Laughing -

For me - I had better go to the docs and get some valium to cope
bernie-woman

Not a happy bunny - I have to go to work tomorrow which is where I spend most of my downsizer time Rolling Eyes Laughing
lettucewoman

oh no! Surprised what will I do? Shocked Shocked Shocked Shocked

*starts to shake uncontrollably*




well maybe get on with some jewellery for a change ....
Marionb

No DS for a whole day... Surprised Surprised Surprised

Ah well, Wales are playing rugby in the afternoon, then X factor in the evening.... I'll survive..... somehow....
Jamanda

When you say "tomorrow" do you mean midnight to midnight?
Cathryn

Laughing Laughing Laughing crucial information
tahir

All I can say is I'm glad it's on a Saturday. (Sorry everybody else)
Nick

You'll have a hangover anyway, trying to forget your rugby result.
tahir

No point worrying about it, we're in for a thrashing and that's that.
RoryD

1 more post Tahir. Make it special

I swear when I posted this he was on 29999. Now I look like a fool. Embarassed
tahir

RoryD wrote:
1 more post Tahir. Make it special


They all are Rory Wink
welsh lamb

between when and when please? I need to plan my day now Surprised
wellington womble

I'm on a course - you'll be suffering without me!
Barefoot Andrew

Good job I've done some vaguely constructive DS tasks today...
A.
hedgewitch

But...but ... I was away all day today. And I won't be around much next week. Shocked Shocked Shocked Shocked
Jamanda

I see we're all still here! When is it going?
jema

About now!
Barefoot Andrew

All seems to be working except for the left-hand section of the front page.
A.
jema

I think that was an existing bug Embarassed which was hiding.

Should clear in a few minutes.
Barefoot Andrew

No sign of email notifications arriving yet......
A.
jema

I expect such things to take a little time to settle.
Barefoot Andrew

Ok. Embarassed Very Happy
A.
jema

Dunno about you though, but I think we are faster?
Simon

Barefoot Andrew wrote:
No sign of email notifications arriving yet......
A.


That's probably not a bad thing. Laughing

If I don't check my Hotmail account for a day or so I end up with hundreds in there from DS. Embarassed Especially when there is a Mafia game running.
Barefoot Andrew

jema wrote:
Dunno about you though, but I think we are faster?


Impossible to tell with just a first post-move visit: response is snappy and immediate, but it has been before. Hopefully there'll be fewer or even no bouts of sluggish response.

A.
Simon

It isn't really offline all day today.

That was just Jema being cautious. Wink

Come on ... where is everyone?
jema

Depends a lot on browser setting, snowball still can't access things.
Simon

Well mine is working. Cool
Cathryn

And you are bored Rolling Eyes Go read your emails, ohh I know there's this game...


Thank you Jema, I think Confused Smile
sean

Jeez, that took ages. I thought jema was supposed to be a techie. Wink
Treacodactyl

jema wrote:
Dunno about you though, but I think we are faster?


This morning it certainly noticeably faster. Is it likely to stay this fast or will it slow a little as more people login or more sites use the server?
Jonnyboy

Couldn't get on at 12.15pm last night, we should have a link to the samaritans on the maintenance page.
jema

Treacodactyl wrote:
jema wrote:
Dunno about you though, but I think we are faster?


This morning it certainly noticeably faster. Is it likely to stay this fast or will it slow a little as more people login or more sites use the server?


It is bound to slow up more over time, but unless I find a short cut to riches, the current state of affairs where all servers are now operating without even being able to find enough things to cache in available RAM, and whilst using very generous database settings is liable to continue for a long time.

If you consider that myff where most the load goes to has been going for over two years now, and that I calculate the servers to be at about 33% of capacity then you get some sense of time.

You should already have been noticing speed ups in the last month, as a major round of work took place to make both downsizer and myff forums work faster on any server Smile This final exercise was simply to remove the anomaly that had been built up where what was the fastest server had become the slowest, and we may as well grab the current fastest especially as as it stands it has every prospect of staying the fastest for a long time.
tahir

I reckon it's about the fastest phpBB site I've used right now.
jema

The one issue we will always have is that the ping time to downsizer is for me about 130ms, 10x slower than some UK based sites Sad

and this may also mean we are more prone to the odd lag as there is simply a lot between most of us here and Iowa Rolling Eyes

But that aside our small share of a big server should operate much faster for us than even our own dedicated server.
CodyT07

jema wrote:
The one issue we will always have is that the ping time to downsizer is for me about 130ms, 10x slower than some UK based sites Sad

and this may also mean we are more prone to the odd lag as there is simply a lot between most of us here and Iowa Rolling Eyes

But that aside our small share of a big server should operate much faster for us than even our own dedicated server.

I thought the server was in Illinois. Question
dougal

jema wrote:
Depends a lot on browser setting, snowball still can't access things.

Jema, has the site moved to a different IP address, or has the same IP been moved to a different machine on a different branch of the net.

I'm intrigued as to why it took different times before different folks were able to reconnect - and why that would be a browser issue...

I'm also kinda surprised that Sean and Jamanda, presumably using the same router, and so likely the same (ISP-provided) DNS, should have been off for different periods of time. I can't see there being a proxy server involved, but maybe a system-level DNS cache.
However if the domain stayed on the same IP, then the routing issue would have been way external, and surely sean and jamanda would have had the same experience?

Just as an incidental - there was a nice "site under maintenance" Joomla-based screen on trying to access forum.downsizer.net but there was a very generic (hosting co?) 404 message from my bookmark to "Latest Posts" - just something that might be neatened when next one of your sites has to be offline briefly - I'd have thought that accessing any page in the (sub)domain ought ideally to display the same info screen, and that it shouldn't be difficult to arrange?
jema

The ip changed, the ip addresses tend to stay with the server.

ip addresses can get stuck in loads of places, browsers, routers, proxies, nameservers.....

If you are lucky you get sorted in minutes, if not then it can be a lot longer. If you have spyware then even more funnies can occur, last time I changed a lot of sites, the logs on the older server was still a week later showing accesses from machines that could be identified as having a particular bit of malware.

As for error messages, well that is a little tricky, as it is important at a certain point to disable the domain on the old server, as which point a vacuum exists at the ip and in this case ended up resolving to another site entirely.

Risking other disruptions to try and deal more neatly with this fleeting situation is not a good idea.
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