Fee
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Epic book suggestionsGoing to order a few books for holiday reading soon, so looking for suggestions of books everyone should have read at least once in their lives.
More for Paul than for me, something that will last him a few days at least (he reads very quickly). He's read War and Peace, and was contemplating reading it again, but I don't think I could take the pain of smugness at him having read it twice and me not at all
The booklists seem to be more about popularity than truly good books.
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Silas
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One book everyone should read is 'Treasure Island'.
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Ian33568
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Animal Farm - G Orwell. - worth a second and third read....
The Pillars of the Earth and World without end by Ken Follett are substantial books but not too heavy for holiday. Or something totally entertaining - Alan Bennett - Untold Stories.
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Barefoot Andrew
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Quincunx - Charlse Palliser.
A.
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judith
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The Alexandria Quartet - Lawrence Durrell (although if he does get through all four books his smugness quotient will be exceedingly high).
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bagpuss
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I Claudius and Claudius the God are both good reads, some good Roman history and lots of gossip and backstabbing for good measure
The Terror by Dan Simmons is a great read, a fictional account of John Franklin's attempt to find the Northwest passage, an interesting piece of historical fiction with some spooky stuff thrown in for good measure about 900 pages long. It takes a little while to get going but the writer have a wonderful knack from taking you from abject horror when they are all dying horribly of scurvy and starvation to hope they might actually survive
The American Wife by Curtis Sittenfield was recommended on here by MJ and is indeed a very interesting read even if many of the characters aren't particularly nice people
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Fee
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Thank-you
Animal Farm and Treasure Island, we have, both excellent books. I've thought of some others we have here that I've read, but Paul hasn't, too. The God of Small Things by Arundhati Roy and One Hundred Years of Solitude by Gabriel Garcia Marquez. Not sure he'll get on with One Hundred Years though, odd book that, great, but odd.
So, on the list to look at review, we have...
The Terror - Dan Simmons
Untold Stories - Alan Bennett
American Wife
I, Claudius (Penguin Classics)
The Alexandria Quartet - Lawrence Durrell - this sounds like a challenge for him, and only £8.99 for them all in one book seems like a bargain.
The Quincunx: The Inheritance of John Huffam
The Pillars of the Earth - Ken Follett
World Without End - Ken Follett
...along with the Sally holiday fund links built in
And if you object to me using an affiliate link to the books mentioned in this thread, you need to get out more.
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alison
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Any from here?
http://www.bbc.co.uk/arts/bigread/top100.shtml
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Fee
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There are a few, but I don't fancy many of those I haven't read Paul might, I suppose I should point him in that direction too
He'll probably give The Story of Tracey Beaker a miss, though!
I think a book sort out this weekend should be on the cards really, I'm pretty sure we've got a few books we haven't read, should start there.
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Angel
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All of the Jean M Auel Earths children series...
The Clan of the Cave Bear
The Valley of Horses
The Mammoth Hunters
The Plains of Passage
The Shelters of Stone
Anne McCaffrey's Freedom/Catteni series..
Freedom's Landing
Freedom's Choice
Freedom's Challenge
Freedom's Ransom
Both series are books that i find myself coming back to again and again..
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bagpuss
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Have either of you read the Dune series, great sci-fi and 7 books enough to keep you going for a while
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Fee
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| bagpuss wrote: | | Have either of you read the Dune series, great sci-fi and 7 books enough to keep you going for a while |
I haven't, Paul might have done, will be sending him here tonight
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alison
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What about looking at the GCSE eng lit syllabus.
I am working my way through that at the moment. Old and new.
Lord of the Flies and Romeo and Juliet are next.
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Fee
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What a fabulous idea, two of my favourite books are books I read for English GCSE! Would be good for Paul too, growing up on Anglesey and having a vehemently Welsh English teacher ( ) meant his books were all Welsh, no Shakespeare or Dickens in sight.
Where can I find a list, Ali? At our school, from what I remember of other sets too, we had:
Macbeth
To Kill a Mockingbird
Oliver Twist
Merchant of Venice
Tess of the D'Ubervilles
Animal Farm
Romeo & Juliet (we did this as part of Theatre Studies rather than English)
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resistance is fertile
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I was going to suggest one (then Fee got there first )
One hundred years of solitude is something that life would be the worse for not having read.
You may have to start once or twice until you realise names dont matter!
I found Tortilla Flat pretty special too and I would agree with the Robert Graves stuff.
I recently read McEwans 'The Innocent' and Harris's 'Archangel' which were both gripping if a little dark
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Fee
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| resistance is fertile wrote: |
One hundred years of solitude is something that life would be the worse for not having read. |
I think you're right, I might have to have a re-read when I've finished Dear Fatty.
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resistance is fertile
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| alison wrote: | What about looking at the GCSE eng lit syllabus.
I am working my way through that at the moment. Old and new.
Lord of the Flies and Romeo and Juliet are next. |
I had to do my English Lit O level in a cupboard at Chulmleigh school as I found the list of 'approved' authors had lots that I was more keen on than J B bloody Priestly!so was excluded from the class.
Thats where I read my first Steinbeck and James Baldwin
(only good grade I got!)
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alison
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I went through a list with my mum, as she taught eng lit for years
pride and predjudice
emma
jayne eyre
to kill a mockingbird
macbeth
R&J
king lear
the crucible
An inspector calls
great expectations
lord of the flies
pygmalian
far from the maddening crowd
Of mice and men
blood brothers
i know why caged birds sing
stone cold
a view from the bridge
frankinstien
tess of the d'Urbevilles
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Angel
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Wuthering Heights... is good
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earthyvirgo
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Some nice tragic D H Lawrence, great doom and gloom stuff, love it.
Anyone else, anywhere in the world Like Lawrence?
Whenever I admit to my passion for his writing, more often than not, I get a big 'raising of eyebrows" or a huge sigh.
EV
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gil
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A Suitable Boy, by Vikram Seth. Good read, and quite a few pages long.
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sean
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The Oxford English Dictionary. It's huge and it's got all the other books in it.
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Barefoot Andrew
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lettucewoman
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American gods..Neil Gaiman
the grail quest series by bernard cornwell
Revelation CJ Sansom
Sarum by someone or other..bum forgotten again!
IT Stephen King
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Green Rosie
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| lettucewoman wrote: |
Sarum by someone or other..bum forgotten again!
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... Edward Rutherford - I was going to suggest that - but only if you like very long (as in 1400 pages) historical novels. I loved it, lent my copy to a friend and lost contact with the friend.
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Chez
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Wuthering Heights is dreadful tosh, IMO (Ducks and runs for cover)
What about the Gormenghast series by Mervyn Peake? That'll keep him going.
Iain M Banks' The Culture stuff is good, and takes a while to read.
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alice
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Re: Epic book suggestions | Fee wrote: | looking for suggestions of books everyone should have read at least once in their lives.
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Dickens. Trollope. Thackeray.
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Stacey
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Anansi Boys - Neil Gaman
World according to Garp - John Irving ( or Cider Housen Rules or Prayer for Owen Meany)
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Chez
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Or Hardy, if you are feeling like you might be too cheery.
ETA, that was in response to Alice.
What about Generation X by Douglas Coupland?
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Bebo
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Anything by Christopher Brookmeyer.
Are you enjoying Dear Fatty, Fee? I read it a couple of weeks ago and got funny looks for laughing out loud on the train.
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Gervase
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Ulysses - or if that's just too darned big, at least have a go at Dubliners; especially the last story, The Dead.
And, still on the Irish, Flan O'Brien's The Third Policeman and At Swim Two Birds; surreal and very funny.
Tressell's The Ragged Trousered Philanthropists ought to get you fired up politically.
If you like history and a bit of magic, try any of Peter Ackroyd's novels - starting with Hawksmoor and moving on through Chatterton and The House of Dr Dee.
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Bebo
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| Gervase wrote: | | [ Flan O'Brien's The Third Policeman |
Read that recently. Thought it was total carp to be honest.
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sueshells
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All of Bill Bryson's travel writing is excellent for holidays - and a bit lighter than "Ulysses"! My favourite is "The Lost Continent". You would need all of them though - they tend to be hard to put down (well for me anyway).
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bagpuss
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| Chez wrote: |
Iain M Banks' The Culture stuff is good, and takes a while to read. |
I can read one of those in a couple of days, great stuff though
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Tavascarow
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Anything by Steinbeck especially Grapes of wrath & East of Eden.
& my favourite of all time is Peter Carey Illywhacker
Great read.
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mochyn
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| Gervase wrote: | Ulysses - or if that's just too darned big, at least have a go at Dubliners; especially the last story, The Dead.
And, still on the Irish, Flan O'Brien's The Third Policeman and At Swim Two Birds; surreal and very funny.
Tressell's The Ragged Trousered Philanthropists ought to get you fired up politically.
If you like history and a bit of magic, try any of Peter Ackroyd's novels - starting with Hawksmoor and moving on through Chatterton and The House of Dr Dee. |
Have I said before that I fear we may have been separated at birth?
A worrying thought.
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Silas
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| Gervase wrote: | Ulysses - or if that's just too darned big, at least have a go at Dubliners; especially the last story, The Dead.
And, still on the Irish, Flan O'Brien's The Third Policeman and At Swim Two Birds; surreal and very funny.
Tressell's The Ragged Trousered Philanthropists ought to get you fired up politically.
If you like history and a bit of magic, try any of Peter Ackroyd's novels - starting with Hawksmoor and moving on through Chatterton and The House of Dr Dee. |
Ulysses - bloody hell, what a book. It's great once you have managed to get into the writing style where there is almost no punctuation - but I have to admit, its the only thing of his I have read, you need to have a touch of the masochist about you
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Fee
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| Bebo wrote: | | Are you enjoying Dear Fatty, Fee? I read it a couple of weeks ago and got funny looks for laughing out loud on the train. |
I am, I've been laughing out loud too, very funny.
I went through some of our novels last night and sorted out some that one or both of us haven't read, but should, so we've got a start on the book pile to choose from:
One Hundred Years of Solitude
A Passage to India
On the Road - Jack Kerouac
The God Delusion - Richard Dawkins (maybe, for me)
Far from the Madding Crowd
Republic - Plato
Maus - art spiegelman
Rob Roy
Ulysses might need to be bought, by the sounds of it
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Ixy
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Tad Williams' Green Angel Tower series for fantasy fiction fun
Conn Iggulden's Ghenghis Khan series
Phillip Pullman's 'His Dark Materials' series. For kids, but so superior to harry potter it's not even funny.
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Fee
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| Ixy wrote: | | to harry potter it's not even funny. |
We're both big fans of His Dark Materials, great books.
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Lorrainelovesplants
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james Joyce - Ulysses,
Chloderos de Laclos - Les Liasons Dangereuse (pardon the spelling)
(bloody excellent and not in French)
War & Peace - (never got beyond page 16, too many characters)
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mochyn
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Can anyone recomment to me a readable version of the Arthurian legends?
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Silas
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| mochyn wrote: | | Can anyone recomment to me a readable version of the Arthurian legends? |
YES yes yes!!!!!
John Stienbeck. OK, its unfinished, but it is brilliant.
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bagpuss
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| mochyn wrote: | | Can anyone recomment to me a readable version of the Arthurian legends? |
Arthur and the Seeing Stone is the start of a 3 book kids series which sets a young man called arthur who is the adopted son of a aristocratic family in the 1200's against the arthurian legends. Merlin tells him about them to put into context his own problems growing up
They are very easy to read and the legends are relatively detailed
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Silas
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| bagpuss wrote: | | mochyn wrote: | | Can anyone recomment to me a readable version of the Arthurian legends? |
Arthur and the Seeing Stone is the start of a 3 book kids series which sets a young man called arthur who is the adopted son of a aristocratic family in the 1200's against the arthurian legends. Merlin tells him about them to put into context his own problems growing up
They are very easy to read and the legends are relatively detailed |
Trouble is with these sort of books is that they are not the original legends - the JS book is!
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bagpuss
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| Silas wrote: | | bagpuss wrote: | | mochyn wrote: | | Can anyone recomment to me a readable version of the Arthurian legends? |
Arthur and the Seeing Stone is the start of a 3 book kids series which sets a young man called arthur who is the adopted son of a aristocratic family in the 1200's against the arthurian legends. Merlin tells him about them to put into context his own problems growing up
They are very easy to read and the legends are relatively detailed |
Trouble is with these sort of books is that they are not the original legends - the JS book is! |
Surely there is no such thing as the original Arthurian Legend being that is was somewhat invented by 15th Century novel writers cobbling together various countries other myths and legends
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Silas
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I think she maens Mallory though.
And it is much earleier than 15c
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alice
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| mochyn wrote: | | Can anyone recomment to me a readable version of the Arthurian legends? |
T.H. White. The complete edition is 'The Once and Future King'
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bagpuss
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| Silas wrote: | I think she maens Mallory though.
And it is much earleier than 15c |
There are indeed snips about a leader named Arthur all the way back to the 6th century but its Mallory who brought it together and inspired culture with it and lead to many copies
I was guessing from how Mocyhn phrased her question that she had already read things like Le Morte d'Arthur or the One and Future King and found them unappealing
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Bebo
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| alice wrote: | | mochyn wrote: | | Can anyone recomment to me a readable version of the Arthurian legends? |
T.H. White. The complete edition is 'The Once and Future King' |
I got given that at school prize giving (many years ago).
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bagpuss
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| alice wrote: | | mochyn wrote: | | Can anyone recomment to me a readable version of the Arthurian legends? |
T.H. White. The complete edition is 'The Once and Future King' |
I tried that admittedly a long time ago now and didn't find it the easiest book to read
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Silas
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| bagpuss wrote: | | alice wrote: | | mochyn wrote: | | Can anyone recomment to me a readable version of the Arthurian legends? |
T.H. White. The complete edition is 'The Once and Future King' |
I tried that admittedly a long time ago now and didn't find it the easiest book to read |
Cracking book - Sir Pellinor after the Questing Beast - great stuff!
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Stacey
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| mochyn wrote: | | Can anyone recomment to me a readable version of the Arthurian legends? |
The Mary Stewart Merlin trilogy is an easy read. And Mists of Avalon too.
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Silas
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http://www.amazon.co.uk/Arthur-Knights-Penguin-Modern-Classics/dp/0141186305/ref=sr_1_9?ie=UTF8&s=books&qid=1251464281&sr=1-9
This is the one you need - seriously good stuff.
(Pity there is not a DS Amazon link?)
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Barefoot Andrew
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| bagpuss wrote: | | Surely there is no such thing as the original Arthurian Legend being that is was somewhat invented by 15th Century novel writers cobbling together various countries other myths and legends |
Doesn't the Arthurian Legend largely stem from the 11th century Geoffrey of Monmouth's "History of the Kings of Britain"? Wikipedia link.
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Silas
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| Barefoot Andrew wrote: | | bagpuss wrote: | | Surely there is no such thing as the original Arthurian Legend being that is was somewhat invented by 15th Century novel writers cobbling together various countries other myths and legends |
Doesn't the Arthurian Legend largely stem from the 11th century Geoffrey of Monmouth's "History of the Kings of Britain"? Wikipedia link.
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Some of it, some is Robert de Boron (Sword in the stone etc) some is Nennius, some is Gerald somebodyorother. Mallory sort of collected it together (or some of it) JS translates it into readable modern English (and makes it more interesting)
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Stacey
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| Silas wrote: | http://www.amazon.co.uk/Arthur-Knights-Penguin-Modern-Classics/dp/0141186305/ref=sr_1_9?ie=UTF8&s=books&qid=1251464281&sr=1-9
This is the one you need - seriously good stuff.
(Pity there is not a DS Amazon link?) |
That will make a good Christmas present for someone - thanks
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sueshells
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What about the Mabinogion if you want legends - that's a good read too.
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Slim
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One Hundred Years of Solitude is great, but I preferred Love in the Time of Cholera
Not really epic at all, but I absolutely love Jitterbug Perfume by Tom Robbins....
Edward Abbey's The Monkey Wrench Gang and Black Sun are both wonderful
Almost all of Vonnegut has to be read at some point....
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Chez
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| Silas wrote: | | Some of it, some is Robert de Boron (Sword in the stone etc) some is Nennius, some is Gerald somebodyorother. Mallory sort of collected it together (or some of it) JS translates it into readable modern English (and makes it more interesting) |
There are three mentions of Arthur in vaguely contemporary literature. Gildas, writing in the 6th century, says that someone fought well, 'although he was no Arthur'. There's mention of Arthur winning a battle at Badon. And there's one I can't remember - maybe Nennius as you say, but I haven't read him lately.
Even Gildas was writing a generation afterwards and it's all very muddled. The later legends are probably bastardisations or embroidery of oral tradition. It's interesting stuff.
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lettucewoman
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| Green Rosie wrote: | | lettucewoman wrote: |
Sarum by someone or other..bum forgotten again!
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... Edward Rutherford - I was going to suggest that - but only if you like very long (as in 1400 pages) historical novels. I loved it, lent my copy to a friend and lost contact with the friend.  |
yes...halfway through the copy i bought from old sarum and it's twice the size already due to getting a bit wet in the bath
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Gill
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If you want a readable variation on the Arthur stories, your could do a lot worse than Bernard Cornwell's Winter King trilogy.
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Erikht
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McCullough's "Masters of Rome" series. She has done quite decent research on those.
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