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Treacodactyl

Felling licences

Do we have any forestry experts I could PM with a question about felling licences and restocking conditions? I am in the process of getting advice from the powers that be but it's taking some time so would appreciate any extra help I can get.
Hairyloon

I never admit to being an expert at anything, but I know a little.
If the questions are general, not personal, why not post them here?
Treacodactyl

They are quite specific and technical so I'd rather not post them up for now.
RichardW

You might be better off asking some one on

http://www.arbtalk.co.uk/

They are a friendly bunch on the whole.

Richard

PS you do know you can cut 5 cubic meters per 1/4 so 20 cubes per year with no licence? There are also other exemptions on size & other stuff that dont count in the 5 cubes.
Hairyloon

Well you are welcome to ask. I shan't bullshit if I don't know.
gil

RichardW wrote:
PS you do know you can cut 5 cubic meters per 1/4 so 20 cubes per year with no licence? There are also other exemptions on size & other stuff that dont count in the 5 cubes.


Would I be right in thinking the exemptions include small coppice, or indeed coppice/pollard of any size ?
Hairyloon

[quote="gil"]
RichardW wrote:
PS you do know you can cut 5 cubic meters per 1/4 so 20 cubes per year with no licence? There are also other exemptions on size & other stuff that dont count in the 5 cubes.

Those figures are per hectare BTW.
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Would I be right in thinking the exemptions include small coppice, or indeed coppice/pollard of any size ?

No. You can normally, without a license, take trees under 8cm DBH or up to 10cm for thinnings, or up to 15cm for cutting coppice.

Pollarding does not need a felling licence, because it is not felling.
No idea how tall you need to leave a tree to call it a pollard though.
Treacodactyl

I know or know where to get the technical details it was more along the lines of the more vague discretionary conditions.

I may have overcome the problem now but I may need more help in future so I'll remember the offers so thanks for them.
RichardW

Hairyloon wrote:

Those figures are per hectare BTW.


Pollarding does not need a felling licence, because it is not felling.
No idea how tall you need to leave a tree to call it a pollard though.


Is it? Cant find that any where.

In fact the FAQ specificaly explains it differently

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Q. Does the '5 cubic metre rule' apply to the landowner or the tenant?

A. Forestry Act 1967 Section 9 (3), as amended by the Forestry (Modification of Felling Restrictions) Regulations 1985 - SI 1985 No 1958), provides that;

'felling of trees of licensable size by any person on land in his occupation or occupied by a tenant of his, does not require a felling licence provided that the aggregate cubic content of the trees felled by that person does not exceed 5 cubic metres in any calendar quarter; and the cubic content sold does not exceed 2 cubic metres'.

This is taken to mean that the allowance applies to the occupier of the land regardless of whether the occupier is the landowner or a tenant.

Q. Is a landowner with 4 tenants restricted to 5 cubic metres per calendar quarter across the whole of his land, or are the tenants entitled to 5 cubic metres per calendar quarter each?

A. The allowance applies to the occupier of the land. This means that the quarterly 5 cubic metre allowance applies to each tenant to use on the land that they lease.

Q. What is the position with a landowner who has several separate landholdings throughout Britain?

A. Again, the allowance applies to the occupier of the land.

If the separate landholdings are tenanted then the allowance applies separately to each tenancy.
If all the landholdings are simultaneously occupied by the landowner (which may be a business or a company) the 5 cubic metre allowance applies once across all the landholdings.
Q. Can I save up my quarterly allowances over say, a year, and then fell 20 cubic metres?

A. No. The allowance applies each calendar quarter and if it is not used it cannot be called forward to a future calendar quarter.


Pollarding might still need permission if the area / tree is covered by a TPO.

Full exemptions are listed HERE


Richard
Hairyloon

RichardW wrote:
Hairyloon wrote:

Those figures are per hectare BTW.


Is it? Cant find that any where.

That is what I thought. It would make sense that way.
Looks like I am wrong. See first post.
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Q. Is a landowner with 4 tenants restricted to 5 cubic metres per calendar quarter across the whole of his land, or are the tenants entitled to 5 cubic metres per calendar quarter each?

A. The allowance applies to the occupier of the land. This means that the quarterly 5 cubic metre allowance applies to each tenant to use on the land that they lease.

So, if you want you could divide up your land, you occupy one section, OH another, DS another....

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Pollarding might still need permission if the area / tree is covered by a TPO.

Pollarding will still need permission if the area / tree is covered by a TPO or is in a conservation area.
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