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Treacodactyl

Float fishing from the beach

The beach I tend to fish from has a rocky shore so spinning and feathering can be a bit tricky (although I've managed to forage a few dexter wedges at low tide. Cool )

As there seems to be plenty fish about I'd like to have a go at float fishing but not sure where to start. As ever, there seems to be an almost endless supply of tackle with floats of all shapes an sizes so I would like a few pointers if possible.

Starting with the float, what sort of size should I look at? I'll be aiming for things like mackerel and gars to start with. I assume too big a float and I'll not notice a bite, too small and it'll not show in the swell?

What sort of rig should I use, would more than one hook be too much for a beginner? I'm often tangling my tackle. Shocked

What sort of bait? If I caught anything then fish strips seem to work best for me but could I get away with something like a feather to star with?

Anything else to be aware of? I'm assuming the longer the rod the better?
Brownbear

this is quite a good guide:


http://www.torbayfishing.com/rigs/float-fishing.htm
Dabinett

Bait wise, you're right, fish strip will get you macks, gars, pollack and bass. Gar is excellent for bait as it is tougher than mackerel so stays on the hook better.
However, until you get your first fish the best bait (in my experience) is small frozen sandeel (or even better, live ones if you can get them).
Artificial bait might work, but they tend to only be very effective when kept moving, so casting out then slowly retrieving might work. However saying that, mackerel seem to hit anything so if they're about in any numbers you probably would get them on a feather.

As for tackle, I haven't looked at Treacodactyl's* link but I suspect it will tell you all you need to know. I use about a 1oz lead and a sliding polystyrene float to match. Use a stop knot set to the depth you want to fish. Generally Gars feed at a very shallow depth, just below the surface, mackerel vary, whilst pollack and bass tend to be deeper down.

*oops, edit - Brown Bear's link is what I meant.
Jamanda

Squid seems to be in favour round here atm.
Treacodactyl

I've read a few bits but can't find much info on what size of floats to use, I suppose I'll order a few different size ones and see how I get on.

As for bait I have seen loads of small fish wash ashore, which I bet would make good bait. Failing that I suppose I'll freeze some fish strips or get hold of some frozen squid.
Tavascarow

Squid is tougher so stays on the hook better.
You want to match your float & weight to the rod you're using.
If you only have light tackle you need lighter terminal gear but wont be able to cast as far.
dpack

slide float from a rocky place or pier
my rig is on 30kg line and a carbon fibre rod for a sliding float at the sea side ,a knot with a rubber band will allow casting and stop the float returning up the line and set depth

a very strong hook about the size of ones smallest fingernail is good ,tie the hook with invisible 10 kg line and let the bait wobble in the water

live rag or lob
fish ,whole or in slices should be very fresh
spin for bait if needs be

float spinning can get a lure near preditor fish
Bodger

I'm off to my cider shed. It doubles up as a fishing tackle shed too and pictures of the required floats will be forthcoming.
Fishing with a float, your bait will be mid water and you need something nice and visible like fish strip or sand eels.
Brownbear

Why not go to a fishing tackle shop and talk to the staff? You could probably get some tips as well as tackle.
dpack

i wish i could say that Laughing
Bodger

Why not go to a fishing tackle shop and talk to the staff? You could probably get some tips as well as tackle.


But that would put us out of a job. Very Happy
dpack

Embarassed

good bait shops have tackle as well

from a rocky shore strong kit is good ,abrasion to line ,bashing kit on the rocks etc etc

i use a carbon fibre telescopic rod (easier to carry and only about £30 )and a good multiplier reel ,20 kg line can take the stresses of casting 200gm of owt and the rod can cope with bouncy big fish and twitch at a light bite

spose the delivery system cost about £100 but it does work out to 100m or so,spin or let lie ,it works

i will take a photo to show how simple the kit is
dpack

sand eels are a popular bait with fishers and bait shops but imho are not the best fish killers

live worm
small crab ,soft shell are best but a damaged crunchy will work
small fish, live is best
baby squid
fisk of very fresh fish
glow stick
shiny thing

live bait is best but not to everyones moral tastes

savage business fishing ,best done well and only enough for food

there is lots of tackle in the shop but to catch fish from a rocky shore the simple things are best
Bodger

dpack you can visit my cider house anytime you want to.









There are only two rules that visitors have to observe and those are that you are able to both walk in and walk out under your own steam. You're such a nice bloke that in your case, I'm prepared to wave the last one. Wine


Here are a selection of the seafishing floats that I use for fishing off the rocks. The humble coloured bubble float often comes good in calm conditions. I've put a biro in the picture as a gauge to size.



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dpack

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Treacodactyl

Why not go to a fishing tackle shop and talk to the staff? You could probably get some tips as well as tackle.


There's none near me for a start. Whenever I happen across one I will pop in and have a chat, hopefully they'll be friendly and helpful but if they'll like other specialist shops some will be very helpful and others will not have the time of day for you. Anyway, I often find it helps if you have some idea before you ask.
Treacodactyl

Here are a selection of the seafishing floats that I use for fishing off the rocks. The humble coloured bubble float often comes good in calm conditions. I've put a biro in the picture as a gauge to size.

Thanks for the details. I've just been looking at bubble floats, I've not really seen them before - worth getting for calm seas then or is it tempting fate? Laughing
Jamanda

Why not go to a fishing tackle shop and talk to the staff? You could probably get some tips as well as tackle.

There's none near me for a start. Whenever I happen across one I will pop in and have a chat, hopefully they'll be friendly and helpful but if they'll like other specialist shops some will be very helpful and others will not have the time of day for you. Anyway, I often find it helps if you have some idea before you ask.

Which near you do you mean? There's one in Westward Ho! and two in Barnstaple.
alison

Why not go to a fishing tackle shop and talk to the staff? You could probably get some tips as well as tackle.

There's none near me for a start. Whenever I happen across one I will pop in and have a chat, hopefully they'll be friendly and helpful but if they'll like other specialist shops some will be very helpful and others will not have the time of day for you. Anyway, I often find it helps if you have some idea before you ask.

Which near you do you mean? There's one in Westward Ho! and two in Barnstaple.

and 2 in Ilfracombe!
dpack

sliding floats are easiest to cast as they are on the end when chucked and slide up to the knot once they hit water
a fixed float has to be cast with a full length of terminal tackle flapping about which is never fun as it will tangle and a nightmare to chuck from rocks

i use a 3 metre tele carbon fibre rod built to cast 50 to 250 gms and a good 30 kg multiplier reel for nearly all shore fishing ,float ,on the floor ,dangling or spinning a biggish thing the combo works

not as far as a beachcaster or as sporty as a spinner but very practical in a bag when climbing down cliffs and strong enough for a big wrass ,small conger or perfect bass ,sensitive enough to twitch at a mullet or two small fighting crabs Laughing

the rod was about £30 and the reel£50

for years i used an old penn multiplier which cost a fiver and some wd40 on a £10 tele fibreglass caught lots of fish but the carbon fibre is far better for a low stress day on a moody slippery ledge
Bodger

You can't beat a bit of rubber. Embarassed Embarassed Embarassed
I use a piece of thin rubber band and tie it tightly on to my main line where I want my sliding float to stop.
dpack

me too ,even from 15 m up the line it will run through the hoops when cast Jonnyboy

Great tip, I'll remember that one. Bodger

It will have to get quite a lot warmer before you see me out on the rocks. Very Happy dpack

a good knot for the band is an austrian butterfly started around the line

a prussic will do but the extra turns of the above reduce slip

a good line is important for a stress free life

strong ,high abrasion resistance ,low stretch cos even low stretch is a bit bungy at distance and the rod should absorb any jerks

shore fishing from a deckchair or a belay is ace
dpack

wd 40 on the line helps lots Bodger

I've got this sea fishing kayak to have a go at this year. I only went out on it a few times last summer. I usually spin from it but a bit of float fishing in those hard to reach spaces might be fun. dpack

maybe better than a belay in and out of the place

never used a kayak to fish but it seems a good tool
Dabinett

It will have to get quite a lot warmer before you see me out on the rocks. Very Happy

Very wise.
Jonnyboy

I've got this sea fishing kayak to have a go at this year. I only went out on it a few times last summer. I usually spin from it but a bit of float fishing in those hard to reach spaces might be fun.

I'm saving for one, which did you get?
Bodger

Mines the yellow one which is a purpose built for sea fishing with various cubby holes and rod holders, while Robs is a more sporty one.














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Dabinett

Very nice. Do you catch much? Which beach is that? Bodger

I caught half a dozen pollock on one outing but nothing very big.
Its the beach at Morfa Nefyn on the Lleyn.
Dabinett

I caught half a dozen pollock on one outing but nothing very big.
Its the beach at Morfa Nefyn on the Lleyn.

Ah, I stayed there on holiday with my family when I was about 12 (so about 18 years ago..).
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