jema
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Fork handleshttp://www.theregister.co.uk/2008/04/11/cab_innit/
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Nick
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This is the trouble with people who fly from Bristol airport, it's all Easyjet and bucket airlines. They even applaud when they land. Full of piercings, tattoos and clad in tracksuits.
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Brownbear
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I know it's a side issue, but has there ever been any research on what percentage of sporting clothes sold are ever worn during exercise?
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Jonnyboy
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| Brownbear wrote: | | I know it's a side issue, but has there ever been any research on what percentage of sporting clothes sold are ever worn during exercise? |
I played football in a non sporting t-shirt last night, hope that goes s small way to redressing the balance.
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Barefoot Andrew
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Hopefully she did make it on holiday, and will be subsequently refused re-entry to the UK.
A.
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Brownbear
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| Jonnyboy wrote: | | Brownbear wrote: | | I know it's a side issue, but has there ever been any research on what percentage of sporting clothes sold are ever worn during exercise? |
I played football in a non sporting t-shirt last night, hope that goes s small way to redressing the balance. |
An interesting philosophical point. Although not designed as a sporting t-shirt, the fact that it was worn as one may make that particular shirt a sporting shirt, although its brother and sister shirts of the same design may not be.
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Nick
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But that would suggest that items not worn for sport are not sporting clothes. So the answer to your question is all sporting clothes are worn for sport.
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judith
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What about darts players? Are their clothes sporting clothes?
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vegplot
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| judith wrote: | | What about darts players? Are their clothes sporting clothes? |
Is darts a sport?
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judith
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I think afficionados claim it is.
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Brownbear
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| Nick wrote: | | But that would suggest that items not worn for sport are not sporting clothes. So the answer to your question is all sporting clothes are worn for sport. |
Ah, but what about clothes specifically designed for sporting purposes but which are not worn during sporting activity? Does the intention of the designer, or the inertia of the couch potato, determine definition?
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vegplot
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| judith wrote: | | I think afficionados claim it is. |
I'd better not hijack this thread.
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vegplot
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| Brownbear wrote: | | Nick wrote: | | But that would suggest that items not worn for sport are not sporting clothes. So the answer to your question is all sporting clothes are worn for sport. |
Ah, but what about clothes specifically designed for sporting purposes but which are not worn during sporting activity? Does the intention of the designer, or the inertia of the couch potato, determine definition? |
An interesting philosophical point.
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Jonnyboy
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| Brownbear wrote: | | Nick wrote: | | But that would suggest that items not worn for sport are not sporting clothes. So the answer to your question is all sporting clothes are worn for sport. |
Ah, but what about clothes specifically designed for sporting purposes but which are not worn during sporting activity? Does the intention of the designer, or the inertia of the couch potato, determine definition? |
They become leisure wear.
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judith
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| vegplot wrote: | | judith wrote: | | I think afficionados claim it is. |
I'd better not hijack this thread.  |
Oh go on. You know you want to.
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vegplot
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| judith wrote: | | vegplot wrote: | | judith wrote: | | I think afficionados claim it is. |
I'd better not hijack this thread.  |
Oh go on. You know you want to. |
Okay then.
Definitions of sport
1. competitive physical activity: an individual or group competitive activity involving physical exertion or skill, governed by rules, and sometimes engaged in professionally
2. competitive physical activities as group: competitive physical activities considered collectively as a group
3. pastime: an active pastime participated in for pleasure or exercise
It could fall under 3. if you consider 'active' to mean standing up holding a pint in one hand and throwing tiny javelins a few feet.
I wouldn't consider darts as either active or physical in a meaningful way.
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Brownbear
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| Jonnyboy wrote: | | Brownbear wrote: | | Nick wrote: | | But that would suggest that items not worn for sport are not sporting clothes. So the answer to your question is all sporting clothes are worn for sport. |
Ah, but what about clothes specifically designed for sporting purposes but which are not worn during sporting activity? Does the intention of the designer, or the inertia of the couch potato, determine definition? |
They become leisure wear. |
So if you have the leisure to pursue your interest in sport, what then?
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judith
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| vegplot wrote: | | I wouldn't consider darts as either active or physical in a meaningful way. |
What about competitive shooting?
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Jonnyboy
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| vegplot wrote: | | judith wrote: | | vegplot wrote: | | judith wrote: | | I think afficionados claim it is. |
I'd better not hijack this thread.  |
Oh go on. You know you want to. |
Okay then.
Definitions of sport
1. competitive physical activity: an individual or group competitive activity involving physical exertion or skill, governed by rules, and sometimes engaged in professionally
2. competitive physical activities as group: competitive physical activities considered collectively as a group
3. pastime: an active pastime participated in for pleasure or exercise
It could fall under 3. if you consider 'active' to mean standing up holding a pint in one hand and throwing tiny javelins a few feet.
I wouldn't consider darts as either active or physical in a meaningful way. |
Darts passes your definition (1)
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Jonnyboy
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| Brownbear wrote: |
So if you have the leisure to pursue your interest in sport, what then? |
That statement makes no sense to me.
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Brownbear
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| Jonnyboy wrote: | | Brownbear wrote: |
So if you have the leisure to pursue your interest in sport, what then? |
That statement makes no sense to me. |
Is asking questions a leisure activity, do you think, or a sport? If the latter, should I wear trousers or a hat?
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Jonnyboy
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| Brownbear wrote: | | Jonnyboy wrote: | | Brownbear wrote: |
So if you have the leisure to pursue your interest in sport, what then? |
That statement makes no sense to me. |
Is asking questions a leisure activity, do you think, or a sport? If the latter, should I wear trousers or a hat? |
You're doing it via the internet, you should be naked.
Hat is optional
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Jonnyboy
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| Nick wrote: | | This is the trouble with people who fly from Bristol airport, it's all Easyjet and bucket airlines. They even applaud when they land. Full of piercings, tattoos and clad in tracksuits. |
Interestingly, my office overlooks a rather infamous part of east belfast. Right now I can see several white tracksuited 'gentlemen of leisure'
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vegplot
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| judith wrote: | | vegplot wrote: | | I wouldn't consider darts as either active or physical in a meaningful way. |
What about competitive shooting? |
Good point. If someone asked me do I partake in sport I'd say no even though I target shoot and we hold competitions. I'd say the same if I played darts or snooker. My physical activity aside from walking is cycling but I don't do it as a sport.
My definition is an active competitive activity and by active I mean quite hard physical activity.
I'm aware that some sports which are inactive such as darts and shooting as classified as such but it wouldn't be my definition.
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Rob R
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Wow, so off topic and only the second page
You can't beat South London teens; pity.
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Frewen
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You can beat saarf london teens - but they'll either knife or shoot you back (whether or not they consider it "sport" to do so, I do not know, and am not about to go and ask)
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gil
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| vegplot wrote: | Definitions of sport
1. competitive physical activity: an individual or group competitive activity involving physical exertion or skill, governed by rules, and sometimes engaged in professionally
2. competitive physical activities as group: competitive physical activities considered collectively as a group
3. pastime: an active pastime participated in for pleasure or exercise |
What about Highland or Scottish Country Dancing ?
Is dance a sport or an art form, or both ?
Highland dance features at Highland Games, along with tossing the caber and all that malarky
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Nick
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Surely sport has to have at least some competitive element to it? Hm. Maybe not. Jogging's a sport, isn't it?
God, I dunno.
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gil
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Both those dance forms are danced competitively.
Very competitively, in the case of Highland Dancing
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Nick
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Well, yeah, they'd be sports fairly clearly then, I guess. Do they do tracksuits in tartan?
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gil
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Jogging would be a form of exercise; marathon running a sport (even if some people jog it)
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vegplot
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| gil wrote: | | vegplot wrote: | Definitions of sport
1. competitive physical activity: an individual or group competitive activity involving physical exertion or skill, governed by rules, and sometimes engaged in professionally
2. competitive physical activities as group: competitive physical activities considered collectively as a group
3. pastime: an active pastime participated in for pleasure or exercise |
What about Highland or Scottish Country Dancing ?
Is dance a sport or an art form, or both ?
Highland dance features at Highland Games, along with tossing the caber and all that malarky |
If it's active and competitive then yes, it's a sport. But we tend to compartmentalise on original beginnings with exceptions (as always). Dancing wasn't considered a sport until it become competutive (Come Dancing) but we don't call it a sport and yet by the term active competetion it's a sport but I dare say the ancient Athenians wouldn't see it that way.
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vegplot
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| Nick wrote: | Surely sport has to have at least some competitive element to it? Hm. Maybe not. Jogging's a sport, isn't it?
God, I dunno. |
I wouldn't have said so but I suppose you could compete against yourself.
Just to invoke Godwin's law and stop this off topic topic early I'll just mention the 1936 games shall I?
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judith
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| Quote: | | It is considered poor form to raise such a comparison arbitrarily with the motive of ending the thread. There is a widely recognized codicil that any such ulterior-motive invocation of Godwin's law will be unsuccessful (this is sometimes referred to as "Quirk's Exception"). |
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Brownbear
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| Quote: | | Godwin's Law: an arbitrary statement made without authority and arbitrarily invoked by those seeking to avoid harsh comparisons by declaring them invalid rather than overcoming them in debate. |
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MarkS
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aka yarrows lemma
Y'know, I cant decide between lema and lemma? what do you think?
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judith
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lemur?
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Brownbear
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| MarkS wrote: | aka yarrows lemma
Y'know, I cant decide between lema and lemma? what do you think? |
lemma. Or, it could be llama if the stoat's having a day off.
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vegplot
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It was just a thought.
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dougal
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| MarkS wrote: | aka yarrows lemma
Y'know, I cant decide between lema and lemma? what do you think? |
Sounds like you're in a bit of a di-lemma...
Anyway, the original story sounds wildly improbable, innit.
Taking a hackney carriage all the way to Bristol?
About as likely as taking one from outside Northampton to Stamford Bridge...
http://www.guardian.co.uk/uk/2008/apr/04/5
Innit?
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