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Biff Vernon

Freecycle

There has just been a major breakdown in relations between the UK organization of Freecycle and the American director and trademark owner, Deron Beal. Despite strenuous efforts to resolve differences recently, the UK Director, Neil Morris was sacked by Deron Beal yesterday. It looks as though an irreconcilable break will now occur with the UK groups going their own way. There is much discussion this morning about rebranding and a new name for the new UK organization.

Dicussion at Independent Association of Freecycle(R) Moderators - UK. Yahoo Group: http://uk.groups.yahoo.com/group/IAFCMods/
Jamanda

Should this have much effect on the local groups? I thought they were fairly autonomous.
Cathryn

Why do you think they turn people down? I have been turned down even though all that had happened was I hadn't been on for a few months and they or me lost my details. I offered far more things than I ever asked for as well. Sad I have a friend who has repeatedly applied in this area with no luck.
Jamanda

I don't know. I don't know if anyone has been turned down from the two I belong to. I don't have much to do with the cafe side of it, but I've given and got some interesting stuff.
jema

I started my local recycle, but got out when it became evident that the big stick of rules from on high was getting annoying and liable to get worse.
Freecycle is a great idea, but make it a trademark and try and apply rigid rules like "no requests to borrow something" and you turn something helpful into something narrow minded.
Treacodactyl

I think some groups have joined a UK based organisation called http://www.realcycle.co.uk/about.asp
Biff Vernon

This just in:
Quote:
We the IAFCM Committee committee no longer see any way to negotiate with TFN or achieve our aims in the current Freecycle Network. Most of us are now moderated and believe we are targeted for removal from our TFN positions (and some are already removed). We are sorry we have failed to achieve our preferential aims..

We no longer feel we can ask you to stay in the Freecyle Network.

For this reason we will now focus the attentions of IAFCM Mods going alone, standing on our own two feet and launching a New UK led and democratically led successor Network. We have received many messages from member moderators urging us to prepare against this eventuality and have a successor Network ready to launch.

The proposed network will not follow the organisational model of The Freecycle Network. It will be led by a consensus, have free elections and polling of group members It will be looser than TFN and groups will be free to choose their own names for their groups, but may, if they wish, choose to use the the network name to increase their visibility in the search engines and have a higher profile as we promote it.

Thee may well be some groups that wish to stay in the Freecycle Network and if so we wish you well. We wish to be inclusive and we wouldn't mind you having a dual affiliation but it we know it would result in you being kicked out of TFN so we wish you you well for the future

There will be a short delay before full instructions on how to establishing full links with the Network and cut the ties with TFN are published We are aware this is a big step and is not exactly what we had in mind when we first started with IAFCMODS and though many members are "raring to go" others may feel a bit pressured and need time and space to voice any reservations. We wish everyone to feel comfortable and we are aware that the committee were working under constraints where we could not consult on this as much as we wanted.

However such constraints are now lifted and there can be open discussion on on IAFCMods in which committee can fully participate.

Fuller instructions as to how to safely rename your group will follow. Please regularly read messages on IAFCMods group for information. We will also be posting admin notices you can use to communicate with your group members. Now it's open to everyone can help modify and polish up admins etc. Please use this group as we used to use modquad in the past to develop best practise and to freely comment on proposals - but lets think outside the box as we don't want to repeat TFN mistakes.

Post here if you are asked to stand down or your group is threatened in any way and we'll support you in making the necessary changes.

Carol, Caroline,David, Edward, Mark, Saira and Seb
Your Interim Committee
jema

Splitter Wink

I'll be interested to see how this goes, I think the time is probably right for it.
Penny Outskirts

Always thought it was a wonderful idea, but could never get into the local group Sad
jema

Penny wrote:
Always thought it was a wonderful idea, but could never get into the local group Sad


What reason did they give?
Penny Outskirts

I just didn't get a reply from them Sad

You had to apply to join via a yahoo group, I tried several times, but never got a response after the "We'll get back to you.." e-mail
JB

Cathryn wrote:
Why do you think they turn people down? I have been turned down even though all that had happened was I hadn't been on for a few months and they or me lost my details. I offered far more things than I ever asked for as well. Sad I have a friend who has repeatedly applied in this area with no luck.


I was turned down from one local group and then sent the same emails / forms agains with exactly the same details only minutes later and was in. I think they just toss a coin.
sally_in_wales

Our local one became a Realcycle a year or two back after an earlier hiccup of some sort with Freecycle admin, works exactly the same way in all essential details, just the local mods get the final say about what goes, seems to work well
gz

Newport, Caerphilly and Torfaen have all gone to http://my.freecycle.org
Sherbs

sally_in_wales wrote:
Our local one became a Realcycle a year or two back after an earlier hiccup of some sort with Freecycle admin, works exactly the same way in all essential details, just the local mods get the final say about what goes, seems to work well


I've used our local Realcycle group a number of times and it all apears to work pretty well. I never had a problem getting accepted on there and the mods all seem to do their jobs effectively without being overly officious.
Biff Vernon

Important article in the Guardian: http://www.guardian.co.uk/environment/green-living-blog/2009/sep/10/uk-freecycle-us-network

Please spread it about cyberspace.
Biff Vernon

New name for new network has been voted for:

Freegle
gz

Caerphilly and Torfaen now have freegle groups- but the freecycle groups have carried on with imposed moderators (as the old ones all went to freegle)
So I assume they are being modded from the US, being freecycle HQ is there Sad
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