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Jo S

Fresh rabbit!

My landlord's been out with the gun and has given me a still-warm rabbit for the pot.

Erm ..... where do I start?
Brownbear

My guide to paunching a bunny, and Bodger's guide to skinning one, are on the articles bit.
Jo S

Thanks!
cab

Re: Fresh rabbit!

Jo S wrote:
My landlord's been out with the gun and has given me a still-warm rabbit for the pot.

Erm ..... where do I start?


Either by skinning it fresh and warm or by waiting until after rigor mortis has passed. So long as you're not skinning it while its gone stiff, its a doddle Smile
Tavascarow

A lot easier than plucking & viscerating a chicken.
Mary Janes recipe of stuffing it with soaked prunes & smearing the outside with curry paste is nice if it's not to old & tough.
Wrapped in tinfoil & roasted till tender.
Smile
Treacodactyl

Possibly too late but, Paunching & Skinning a Rabbit , How to... joint a rabbit & Things to do with rabbits and hares
Chez

I skin 'em, do the necessary and then shove them in a casserole dish with whatever I have handy and cook in the oven on a slow heat for a few hours. If you have some bacon to shove in too, cut it in to chunks and throw a handful in.
Jo S

Well, he's skinned etc and ready to be jointed. The dogs are going mad - they could just about cope with me drawing a pair of cockerels this afternoon, but they *know* I've got a rabbit and they're *not* happy Laughing

Daft question, but I've not got any veggies in the house ... I assume the meat will be ok in the fridge til tomorrow evening? Or would I be better off freezing it and cooking another time?
Chez

Nah, it'll be fine.

Or freeze it. I just treat it like 'underground chicken' Wink
Brownbear

It will keep for several days in the fridge.

I'm not sure, but Madame Bear's recipe for rabbit pie might be on the recipe database. If it is, it's worth a try. Rabbits have been queueing up to be shot if it means achieving gastronomic sainthood in such a pie.
Jo S

Laughing The freezer it is, while I contemplate the options. If you ever hear me pondering as to the identity of the unidentified hunks of meat*, point me in the direction of this thread Laughing

* labels are for wimps ... and them what have them Rolling Eyes
Chez

Jo S wrote:
* labels are for wimps ... and them what have them Rolling Eyes


Judith will Shun you Wink
Mary-Jane

Lapin au Pruneaux. Yum... Cool
Chez

Do you need to prune your lapins often? Shocked
Jo S

Chez wrote:
Jo S wrote:
* labels are for wimps ... and them what have them Rolling Eyes


Judith will Shun you Wink


Yes, well after I ran up her road in my nightshirt in the snow looking for my bloody dog, I think it's safe to say she undoubtedly already does Wink
gardening-girl

Labels alway fall off anyway Rolling Eyes
That is why I took out braised red cabbage in mistake for blackberr and apple,no pudding that night!
judith

Jo S wrote:
Chez wrote:
Jo S wrote:
* labels are for wimps ... and them what have them Rolling Eyes


Judith will Shun you Wink


Yes, well after I ran up her road in my nightshirt in the snow looking for my bloody dog, I think it's safe to say she undoubtedly already does Wink


I still have fits of the vapours when I think of it now. Very Happy
Chez

Does one have a 'fit' of the vapours? I rather thought that it was an 'attack' Laughing
gil

gardening-girl wrote:
That is why I took out braised red cabbage in mistake for blackberr and apple,


I have something like that in my freezer - it's dark red, has some fruit in, but could be a meat casserole. It's been there ages now, because I can't remember whethr it is savoury or sweet.
Tooth and Claw

Depending on how many I have shot, I usually paunch them then freeze rabbits still in thier jackets. It cuts back on freezer burn, hate that!
Wood child

Hi, I'm new on the forum. Anyways, on the subject of rabbits, will a .22 air rifle kill one? Because I can get permission to shoot them on my allotment, and just wondering if an air rifle is humane?
sean

If the range is short enough and you're a good enough shot then yes.
maryf

I'll use a .22 at a short range, but not on open land.
RichardW

Wood child wrote:
Because I can get permission to shoot them on my allotment


I think that an allotment is public land so would check that the person giving your permission actually has that authority.
woodsprite

If it's a nice young un, bunny rissotto with chive pesto is delish. We have it often at this time of year.
Shane

Wood child wrote:
Hi, I'm new on the forum. Anyways, on the subject of rabbits, will a .22 air rifle kill one? Because I can get permission to shoot them on my allotment, and just wondering if an air rifle is humane?
A .177 or .22 air rifle will cleanly kill a rabbit (or squirrel for that matter) inside of 35 yards, but it must be a head shot. You need to practice, practice, practice on targets at various ranges and in various weather conditions to ensure a clean kill every time.

As already pointed out, it is illegal to be in possession of an air rifle on public land without a valid reason. If you fire an air rifle on public land, you are committing a firearms offence, regardless of what permission you think you have. You can only shoot an air rifle on private land with the written permission of the land owner - which isn't necessarily the same party as the occupier (thinking of an allotment association here - suspect the land is owned by the council and hence probably classed as public).

Of course, you could trap the rabbits (again, with permission) and shoot them perfectly legally in your back garden (assuming you own rather than rent your house).
SheepShed

Shane wrote:

As already pointed out, it is illegal to be in possession of an air rifle on public land without a valid reason. If you fire an air rifle on public land, you are committing a firearms offence, regardless of what permission you think you have. You can only shoot an air rifle on private land with the written permission of the land owner - which isn't necessarily the same party as the occupier (thinking of an allotment association here - suspect the land is owned by the council and hence probably classed as public).

The situation with controlling rabbits is slightly more complicated than that, in that a tenant's right to control rabbits is independent of the ownership of the shooting rights
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The Ground Game Act 1880 gives an occupier the right to shoot rabbits on his/her land during the day and to authorise in writing one other person to do so. That person must be a member of the occupier's household or staff, or be employed for reward.

But if Wood child is talking about a plot on an allotment society, shared by other allotment holders, then the answer is almost certainly a big no. In today's climate particularly, when the public are even more paranoid about guns than usual, it's likely to end up with the arrival of an Armed Response Unit and a lot of shouted instructions about dropping your gun and lying face down on the ground.
Wood child

Well, that said, this isn't a public allotment, and it IS legal to carry an air rifle in public, so long as its sleeved.
SheepShed

Wood child wrote:
Well, that said, this isn't a public allotment, and it IS legal to carry an air rifle in public, so long as its sleeved.

If it's not accessible by the public and the person giving you the permission to shoot has the right to do so, then it's probably OK.
Bear in the mind that you need to ensure that none of the pellets will leave the boundary of the land on which you have permission, and that you can't shoot within 50ft of the center of a public highway 'in such a way as to cause alarm etc.' then it should be OK.

You can get a permission slip for the landowner to fill in from the BASC website http://www.basc.org.uk/en/shooting/pest-and-predator-control/pest-control-permission-slip.cfm and it's worth looking at their code of practice for airgunners

Then there's just the little matter of getting close enough and shooting accurately enough, which like Shane said, is practice, practice, practice Very Happy
RichardW

And then all it still takes is some busy body to see you & phone the plod & the Armed response unit turns up "guns blazing".
SheepShed

RichardW wrote:
And then all it still takes is some busy body to see you & phone the plod & the Armed response unit turns up "guns blazing".

Unfortunately ARU's turn up all the time even when people are shooting in the middle of a 100 acre field, and even if they've done what some police forces request and phone up in advance to tell plod where and when they'll be shooting.
If we didn't shoot anywhere where busybodies might be offended, we may as well give up all together.
If you comply with the law and act responsibly then you are pursuing a legitimate activity and have nothing to afraid of.
Only Wood child can really tell whether it's safe and legal to shoot on the land in question, but shooting an air rifle with permission on private land isn't illegal (subject to the usual provisos) and isn't something we should be frightened off doing because of what people might think.
Wood child

Hey richard youre so paranoid.
Wood child

Thank you sheepshed, I agree entirely.
RichardW

Not quite what I meant. Was more meant to imply, watch you back, make sure you have signed permission on you when shooting, be a good neighbour. If some one makes that call they have to respond as if you are a nutter with a gun.

Also make sure you keep to the area you are allowed to shoot in. Technically entering other land even with an air rifle is Armed Trespass & has a minimum mandatory 5 year jail term. Stupid but true.
Wood child

Anyone here from th US? what are gun laws like over there?
Brownbear

Wood child wrote:
Anyone here from th US? what are gun laws like over there?


Not from the US but know something of their firearms laws.

They vary from State to State, County to County, City to City. Some States have certain limits on magazine capacity, California for some bizarre Liberal reason banned long arms fitted with a pistol grip. some States permit the carrying of concealed handguns for people with no criminal record, some ban concealed carry but let you carry a pistol on your hip.

If you buy a Federal permit you can own fully automatic weapons that were in private hands before a certain date.

They have some odd laws about shooting seasons - which are far shorter and more tightly controlled than ours - and frequently bowhunters get an early start, followed by (again for no sane reason that I can see), people with black powder rifles, then modern rifles.

Americans have an almost Teutonic passion for odd and restrictive local statutes, and anyone who tells you that it's an armed free-for-all over there is talking through a non-oral opening.
Wood child

Thanks Brown Bear. Hell, what is it with yanks and guns?
Brownbear

Wood child wrote:
Thanks Brown Bear. Hell, what is it with yanks and guns?


Along with abortion, race, and Christianity, it's one of the great issues by which Americans define themselves and others. To be a liberal, you have to be anti-guns, in favour of 'positive discrimination' for black people (though many white liberals keep a gun at home in case any actual black people should turn up on their doorstep), 'pro-choice' and in favour of a secular state.

To be a Conservative, you have to be pro-guns (whether you actually own one or not), anti-abortion (except when your daughter gets up the duff) and against 'positive discrimination' (for anyone except white Christians) and the secular state (as long as it's your own God in the driving seat).

They have many admirable qualities, and I'm sure we look as mad to them as they look to us.
Wood child

Jeez. Anyway, isn't the definition of liberal: "willing to discard traditional values, and open to new behavior" such as carrying a gun. What a mess.
Oh, and I don't know what positive discrimination means in real terms, please explain.
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