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Shan

Good or Bad Idea?

I know about the Three Sisters planting method but what I was wondering was whether I could plant beetroot in between corn rows?
tahir

Maybe for baby beets? While the coirn is developing you could interplant with any salading or small carrots, radishes maybe?
Slim

I wouldn't bother
Shan

I'm short on space, which is why I want to know. I don't want to do anything that is likely to damage the corn's ability to take up nutrients.
Shan

Maybe for baby beets? While the coirn is developing you could interplant with any salading or small carrots, radishes maybe?


The baby beets are a thought. I have salad in the cold frame and radish in a tray.
Mistress Rose

If you are short on space it is worth a try. I tried the three sisters method and it wasn't that successful, but I possibly didn't do it quite right.
Shan

I have also done it before. Didn't work for me either.
Slim

Corn can take some crowding, but you need to ensure you really get a lot of N to it

Three sistersr requires a fair bit of space between corn hills to work well, and the beans don't actually supply N to the others the way people think they do
Nick

What beans? If it's broad beans, the two sisters approach is way better.
Shan

Don't you start.... you are responsible for a good portion of my lack of space!
Mistress Rose

I used peas, corn and courgettes. It might work in the new raised beds better, but on open ground and the old raised beds, it didn't work well at all. I probably didn't give it enough nitrogen.
Shan

I had done beans, corn and courgettes and it was in a large well manured bed. An absolute unproductive mess.
Nick

Don't you start.... you are responsible for a good portion of my lack of space!


HOW?

I was after a couple of spare chilli plants!
Nick

Seriously, I've been given some corn. I've planted them out, in a 4x4 foot grid, about a foot between them. They stand around a foot high. I have courgettes and French beans/peas ready to plant out. Should I put them between the corn, or am I too cramped already?

Widthways it fills the bed, so if not in between, then I can go next to.
tahir

At that spacing only something really quick is going to be worth interplanting (so no, don't put your beans or peas in there) Nick

Ta.

Rocket, then.
tahir

Yeah Shan

Don't you start.... you are responsible for a good portion of my lack of space!

HOW?

I was after a couple of spare chilli plants!

Well, there's 13 Chilli & Pepper plants taking over my greenhouse! Would you like me to cook them for you too when they are done fruiting? Wink
Shan

At that spacing only something really quick is going to be worth interplanting (so no, don't put your beans or peas in there)
Agreed.
Slim

Thirded.

Beans on corn work best when it's grain or popping corn that will be left on the plant to dry down.
Squash get big
Nick

Don't you start.... you are responsible for a good portion of my lack of space!

HOW?

I was after a couple of spare chilli plants!

Well, there's 13 Chilli & Pepper plants taking over my greenhouse! Would you like me to cook them for you too when they are done fruiting? Wink

That’d be great. Thanks.

Could you pickle some too, please?
Shan

Guess the answer. Don't put it on here. Rolling Eyes Slim

Guess the answer. Don't put it on here. Rolling Eyes

Don't be so humble! You deserve to be lauded for your generosity!
dpack

Guess the answer. Don't put it on here. Rolling Eyes

Don't be so humble! You deserve to be lauded for your generosity!

Laughing
buzzy

Ditto!

Henry
wellington womble

I have tried the three sisters thing before, and nothing grew very well. I think it needs a ton of nutrients, and the corn needs to be well established before you get anything trying to climb up it! I’ve got a Trial bed especially put aside for it this year with a whole barrow of WRM on it, and compost on top, to see if I can get it to work. I’m not so convinced that I don’t have also individual beds of corn, beans and squash, but I’m still going to give it a go. Imagine if you could devote all your squash and bean space to sweet corn as well! At the moment, I think I will struggle to keep it watered enough, but that might change anyway.

My bloody chillies etc are still languishing in the spare room while I sulk about my polytunnel, which blew away last week. 😡
Mistress Rose

Sorry to hear about your polytunnel. Was that the north easterly we had? Wind from an unexpected quarter always does the most damage. If you get the polytunnel back, you need to make sure it is very well anchored by the sounds of it. wellington womble

I have got it back, albeit a different shape. I don’t know how whether to try to bash it back into shape or just buy another. It’s a very exposed site, so I wasn’t expecting a winter out of it, but gales in May seem rather beyond the pale! dpack

use the still strong parts, replace what is trashed, storm lash it down before next time Question

storm lashing is pretty simple and only needs enough rope and anchors to be solid

glad you got it back, in the "no hurricane" storm of the 1980s i watched an ali framed green house that had shed its glass do a very competent tumble weed impression along the A24 at about 80mph while i foolishly decided to get a torch from the car when the leccy went out.

not as extreme as some mountain stuff but a daft call on my part as i had not considerd the UFO's, the estate agent sign i dodged was quite a weapon

wind is fun, my last sticks and a sheet one was at treen, my string and gaffer tape "tent" survived, 2 good expedition tents survived, there was some good forage from the other 200 or so folk the weather chased away Laughing
i still have more carbon fibre tent poles than i know what to do with Laughing

cross lash, decent anchors, should cope with most weather
Mistress Rose

I would agree with storm lashing. We managed to keep our heavy duty gazebo in one place while all around were falling apart or taking off, but can't say I liked it very much. Ropes or straps over the top at several places, cross lashings inside and very strong, long spikes. Wood or serrated metal work best as they don't come out of the ground so easily.

Personally I don't like high winds as I find them very tiring, and they can be rather frightening too.
wellington womble

I think I neglected to latch the door properly, and the wind got in and under. It had already survived similar winds. I’m not sure whether to buy another, or save my cash and put it towards a permanent one. I’m not completely sure about the site, yet though. dpack

I would agree with storm lashing. We managed to keep our heavy duty gazebo in one place while all around were falling apart or taking off, but can't say I liked it very much. Ropes or straps over the top at several places, cross lashings inside and very strong, long spikes. Wood or serrated metal work best as they don't come out of the ground so easily.

Personally I don't like high winds as I find them very tiring, and they can be rather frightening too.

if the ground is not suitable for spikes a decent sized rock or collated rocks makes a good anchor

rebar is a cheap source of metal spikes

as far as internal lashings, they could also serve as support for things that need to climb.
Mistress Rose

If you are not sure about the site, perhaps save your money for now. When you are sure might be the best time to consider a permanent one.
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