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dpack

greece

hi there , i have a cunning plan .
does anyone know about chalkidiki
mediumsized smallholdings
rules ,regs,n pitfalls .
and when all i need is a rowing boat with a put put outboard do they want to hire million pound yachts on all the websites Laughing
thanks for any advice
dpack

are there any greek downsizers?
pricey

dpack I don't think there are any that our registered, but this thread might give them a push in the right direction Wink
Fee

Re: greece

dpack wrote:
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does anyone know about chalkidiki


dpack, did you mean Halkidiki?

Not that I know anything about there either, other than I know people who have been on holiday there a few times Wink
dpack

the same place ,2 spellings (kernow/cornwall etc.the trident of greece se of macadonia , on fork is mt athos and a monks republic the other 2 prongs seem ace .im going back for a solo explore and was hoping for some advice .at the moment im planning to get to salonika in september and make it up as i go along for a few weeks (the hounds can stay with uncle mick ) Laughing
my greek mate des is on an island somewhere with no phone Cool so im a bit at a loss for personal knowledge
i may have to be pathfinder (i have a map and im not scared to use it Laughing )how i found the best bits of scotland and kernow ,and the greeks i have met have been very helpful so all is not lost if im first in but more background would save wasted effort.
help please .
oldhibberd

No, not two spellings, it's Greek innit. Greek alphabet transliterated.

Dpack good luck, cheap it might be, but the thought of trying to deal with Greek beuracracy, now theres a scary thought!
dpack

umm tell me more .
oldhibberd

Well I lived in Thesaloniki for a year a decade ago, and yes Halkidiki/Chalkidiki is quite nice. I dont have any experience of planning/farming regs etc, but I did find any dealings with officialdom very long winded and frustrating.
dpack

like england and the rest of the eu then then ? Laughing
did you find the welcome extends to ex pats as well as tourists ?
any idea where i may be able to hire a small but sturdy boat(i am quite responsible ,sort of ) for a couple of weeks when i go back exploring (sept )as i think the best way to explore torinos will be by coast hugging ,rather than a hotel and radial exploration .
i find greek (all) roads scary Laughing and i wont cover enough areas on foot in the time i have available .
oldhibberd

Sorry no idea about the boats, and wouldn't know about Ex-pats. I was a sort of student, most of the guys were ok, until we started chatting up their women!

If you know anybody that has Saga Magazine. in this month's there is a nice article about a guy who converted an old Olive press on one of the Islands. Top of a hill, no road access, or electric, completely mad!
dpack

nearer the water but im nuts too .
efkharisto
dougal

dpack wrote:
any idea where i may be able to hire a small but sturdy boat(i am quite responsible ,sort of ) for a couple of weeks when i go back exploring (sept )...

September is probably the most helpful bit. End of the season but not quite out of season.
Problem is that the sort of boat you are after is rather unlikely to be offered to tourists.
I wondered about "flotilla sailing holidays" - but that probably wouldn't give you enough flexibility. (Unless you happen to have some RYA paperwork... )
You aren't going to want to hire anything as big as a caique...

ISTR that decent Greek maps (and charts) were more easily bought in London than Greece.

I think your best bet is to use the net (or even the Rough Guide) to find email (or phone) for specific town tourist offices, town halls, maybe even harbourmasters. And ask them.
Its possible that you might be able to hire something from, for example, a windsurf or sailing school (their safety boat?) or a water ski outfit (their pride and joy).
I fear 'self-drive hire' may be tricky. Just think of insurance. But hiring a boat + man (or boy) may be fairly easy, if not as cheap as some years ago.
If its anything like motorcycle hire in Greece, you might expect a low standard of maintenance (certainly by the end of the season), and a request for a hefty deposit or even your passport...
dpack

thanks
dpack

maybe i just buy a second hand canoe a bit like walking but waist up .
i recon a cabin boy wouldnt suit .
ooh er mrs
Laughing
ta again
dpack

although i did see the drinks coasters Embarassed
dougal

dpack wrote:
i recon a cabin boy wouldnt suit .
ooh er mrs
Laughing


I'm thinking that hiring a boat + even a nominal "driver" (a bit like a minicab) is the sort of thing that the fishermen, etc, would take to a lot more easily than seeing someone setting of in *their* boat without any supervision.
It would also be a way to get a lot more local knowledge.

I rather wonder whether you might be best looking for, and asking after, an expat-run water-borne operation... (less emotional attatchment to the boat).
dpack

buy a canoe seems simple enough for even me .
i dont need big fast or clever just better than walking when the sea is there ,flat and near everywhere .
i like canoes more than bicycles (ugh hills )so until my feet hit dust i will keep my options open .
ta so far ,any more advice is welcomed
dougal

Don't expect the Aegean to be completely flat come September. It gets *very* breezy.
dpack

thats ok ,but i will be sensible
pulled up to see out wild weather is no great hardship Laughing
i need independant mobility , the environment i will live with
if i must feed the fish ...nice way to go Laughing
so far etc famous last wo... Laughing
apart from water a pretty gentle environment judging by the flora .
fun though , i really appreciate the help .
im taking my fly net ky closest i could find to deet but i still dont need a cabin boy Laughing
dougal

Re: greece

dpack wrote:
hi there , i have a cunning plan .
does anyone know about chalkidiki
mediumsized smallholdings
rules ,regs,n pitfalls ...


No one mentioned fires.

Dpack you're better off wherever you are right now.
dpack

i saw that ,
add fire breaks to cunning plan Cool
im a bit worried for them but the locals are used to it
43 degrees +pine forrest =wild fires most years this is a bad one though .
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