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Treacodactyl

Hedging, on the cheap

Ideally I'd grow my own from seed but I've not had much luck germinating hawthorn which I want to base my hedge on.

So, I'm going to buy the hawthorn @ 25p a plant. I've also had good success with using goat/grey willow cuttings and as I've got several plants to cut back that will form the starting point of the hedge.

I'll buy a few other plants to add variety, currently on my list are a few field maples and dog wood.

Possibly hazel and blackthorn as I can transplant them from elsewhere.

Any other ideas for doing things on the cheap? Any must have plants I've missed? I think a few crab apples and cherry plums might fall into my basket but they're a bit expensive.

The aim is to establish a basic hedge and add to it in future.
Nicky Colour it green

willow takes very easily - we also managed to take some alder cutting sucessfully
dpack

blackthorn is invasive both along and across the hedge into the spaces both sides,it has thorns that should be banned under the un conventions on biological weapons as the wounds usually go septic,although sloes are nice most of it's habits are horrid.

ps it is a nightmare if you are trying to sneak up on a bunny or whatever as it is not only painful to press against on the bush or to hands and knees etc on the floor but it can be as tangly as a VERY TANGLY THING.

pps chainsaw trousers and a stab vest are the best clothing to wear if you must go anywhere close to it.

ppps ask rob what it can do through a welly sole Rolling Eyes

for a fruit component bullace are rather nice and seem to germinate well from bletted stones.
Treacodactyl

willow takes very easily - we also managed to take some alder cutting sucessfully


I think I'll just use the goat willow for now, even though I do have access to my own various coloured willows.

However, thanks for reminding me about alder, I have indeed successfully rooted an entire alder post so know it does root from cuttings. It's something I do want to add but reluctant to import due to diseases. As we do have some mature trees about the place I may find some cutting material which would be great.
sean

Elder? Dog rose?
Rowanlady

In my woodland edge wild garden my "hedge to hide ugly fence" - is hawthorn, hazel, field rose, spindle, blackthorn, holly, dog rose, dogwood, guelder rose, honeysuckle

With an elder, rowan, crab apple and birch as 'exclamation points'

Bramble and ivy are forbidden to grow on that side of the area Laughing

Apart from the birch and rowan all were either transplanted 'bird-sown' or cuttings stuck in the ground

Currently growing cuttings in pots since the summer to give my daughter a head start for her new house in the spring Smile
Jam Lady

I remember an old countryside type book that suggested where a hedgerow was wanted to put up a couple of posts and a wire between them. Birds would perch on the wire, "relieve" themselves, and you'd achieve a mixed planting of whatever the birds had been eating.
Hairyloon

pps chainsaw trousers and a stab vest are the best clothing to wear if you must go anywhere close to it.

Nah. Chainsaw trousers rip far too easily.
dpack

what a neat idea ,i recon somebody should try that and let us know how it goes.

however i dont recall "natural" hedges under phone cables etc but i will have a look .
Tavascarow

To grow hawthorn from seed you need to harvest the berries early before dormancy sets in.
Just when they start to show colour.
Put through a mincer & then float off the pulp & skin.
They will still need at least one winter & would benefit some cold (freezer) storage but you should get a reasonable number germ the first spring & even more the second.
dpack

pps chainsaw trousers and a stab vest are the best clothing to wear if you must go anywhere close to it.
Nah. Chainsaw trousers rip far too easily.

dressed for a days blackthorn hedge laying
Mistress Rose

Nice one Dpack. Willow might be all right if you keep it well cut. If it gets too tall it falls over. Hazel is always a good basis for a hedge as it can be coppiced or layed. Hawthorn can be layed, and grows quickly, and the others Rowanlady suggests would make a really nice hedge. Jam Lady's idea about a post and wire fence can also work. We have some yellow raspberries in the wood next to some permanent deer fence for that very reason I suspect. NorthernMonkeyGirl

I gather dogwood (Cornus) roots almost as well as willow, and is very pretty, also flexible enough to be woven across any gaps? Mistress Rose

Dogwood is another one that will spread badly if not kept under strict control. I have it all over the garden and it is a pest. Pretty, but a pest. Treacodactyl

I know dogwood spreads very easily, but that is ideal for the hedges I want at the moment. I'll try taking cuttings and layering if the plants I order get established. The problem I have with it in my woodland is it's loved by the deer and is heavily nibbled. Cathryn

Spindle is lovely. We've used it in our hedges. There's nothing wrong with gorse in the right place either.

You can also leave bundles of hedging plants roughly heeled in just waiting to be remembered for quite a number of years. Embarassed Might be useful if you can buy in bulk at a reduced rate.
dpack

location is important with toxic plants Treacodactyl

Not sure about spindle but I'm avoiding elderberry as it's toxic to dogs and our hooverador tends to forage just about everything (including rose hips Rolling Eyes ). dpack

might be worth a look

hoover dogs can be very silly at times

spindle is toxic to dogs
Mistress Rose

I love spindle because of the brilliant seeds and seed pods. We don't have animals, so not a problem there. I have used dogwood for making the shafts for drop spindles, as the wood is fairly solid at the diameter you want, so useful, but makes a lot of itself.

Our hedge beside our garden has a lot of different things in it, including holly, yew, privet, spindle, prunus, hazel, a small patch of butchers broom and lilac. An old garden hedge with a bit of wild in it.
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