[resistance is fertile]

Compared to what?

Mining for coal, transporting that coal to a power station, the build/running/decommissioning costs of that power station, the work involved in nationalising the grid and then delivering that little bit of energy to your house and the cost of providing, administering and maintaining that supply.

fair enough, it might not be the most efficient way to provide power to garden lights but its clean, independent and transferable/extendable.

[RichardW]

Not having garden lights?

Not like they are essential is it?

Now if it was the house lights it would actually be offsetting some grid power.

Oh & as the OP is SELLING the instructions this is SPAM.

[vegplot]

This is a good example of what can be achieved on a budget. While the powering garden lights may not be considered to be highly relevant or practical it demonstrates what can be achieved for minimal financial outlay using off the shelf parts and a little ingenuity.

[resistance is fertile]

This is exactly the point I was trying to make.

First stop garden lights next stop house lights, next stop off grid freedom

[boisdevie1]

This is exactly the point I was trying to make.

First stop garden lights next stop house lights, next stop off grid freedom

[vegplot]

Don't get hung on the garden lights. That's just motivation for the project. The real result is the ability to build a wind generator for $150 with parts bought on eBay.

It is expensive compared to mains there no arguing that and if pure economics are your deciding factor then go mains every time.

[resistance is fertile]

Amen.

Off grid can be cheap to set up, is very cheap to run and frees from more than just dependence on easy to use power, as you go along it frees you from the need for most of it.

[RichardW]

When the purpose of the post is to sell his "how to" guide (thats grossing him $2.3 MILLION per year at the discounted price & $9.5 MILLION at full price) not to spread the word about off grid living.

Maybe my spam alarm setting is a little sensitive lately as all the off grid forums I am on are currently FULL of this sort of stuff.



Richard

[ksia]

When the purpose of the post is to sell his "how to" guide (thats grossing him $2.3 MILLION per year at the discounted price & $9.5 MILLION at full price) not to spread the word about off grid living.

Maybe my spam alarm setting is a little sensitive lately as all the off grid forums I am on are currently FULL of this sort of stuff.



Richard

[RichardW]

I would rather give the info away.

Richard

[ksia]

I would rather give the info away.

Richard

[arvo]

I reckon that's the point of the conversation though. I reckon its like knitting, you don't have to be clever to do it (though the results often look fantastically clever), but there is a knack, and if a friend can give you a head-start, it's surprising what can be achieved.

Theres a project I've seen somewhere with a cut up drain-pipe as blades! That kind of testing and tinkering round level is what motivates me to have a punt.

The 'have a go' thing is my favorite aspect of Downsizer.

[arvo]

Do you reckon the Scoraig ones where the alternator is made from car parts are any good?

[arvo]

My late grandmother used to work making alternators in the war. I often think when I'm in a toying with turbines mood whether I could be a***d to make an alternator hard core style. I guess you'd need thousands of turns to make it work?