That will have hedgehogs everywhere rejoicing 
bulworthy project
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How many kilos do you get from an average burn BP? |
About 160-170kg
Hairyloon
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Being pedantic, I had understood that the majority of dodgy imported charcoal is from mangroves, not rainforests.
Arguably they are actually more important.
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Mr O
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Over here most use propane BBQs. I am trying slowly and carefully to retroconvert them to charcoal. Preferably Nova Scotia produced Charcoal.
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bulworthy project
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Being pedantic, I had understood that the majority of dodgy imported charcoal is from mangroves, not rainforests.
Arguably they are actually more important. |
I'm not sure how much comes from one or the other. It is hard to find accurate data because importers are somewhat reluctant to say. We talk about rainforest more than mangrove swamps because people understand the issues better.
Ty Gwyn
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Thinking about this,if as you say the imported charcoal is from the Rain Forests,does that not equate to be made in the main from Hard Wood waste,therefore on parr with local hardwoods on quality?
Although i m with you all the way on reducing imports.
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bulworthy project
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You would think so. We were suprised to find out what poor quality charcoal comes from the rainforest. mahogony, teak etc are just too dense to make good charcoal. they don't light easily and therefore need to have chemical accelerants added. Even with these additives they take a lot longer to reach cooking temperature.
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Nicky cigreen
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just back from a beach bbq breakfast - we used Devon charcoal - from Sharpham.
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robkb
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A few years ago I bought several bags from the Hampshire Coppice Group, which is excellent stuff.
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Hairyloon
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OTOH, I was in the Coop yesterday where they are selling fair-trade certified charcoal.
There is a very valid argument that if the countries with rainforest cannot make money out of rainforest, then they'll cut it down and grow something else.
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Nick
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OTOH, I was in the Coop yesterday where they are selling fair-trade certified charcoal.
There is a very valid argument that if the countries with rainforest cannot make money out of rainforest, then they'll cut it down and grow something else. |
This is true, but it gets cut down either way. Presumably, the best route is one that pays them more to keep it standing. I guess if it can be managed, and cropped, and kept this is an answer.
Hairyloon
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OTOH, I was in the Coop yesterday where they are selling fair-trade certified charcoal.
There is a very valid argument that if the countries with rainforest cannot make money out of rainforest, then they'll cut it down and grow something else. |
This is true, but it gets cut down either way.
Not exactly, assuming we have faith in the certification, then we know the charcoal has come from properly managed sources, in which case it is no different from OP's charcoal, except for the mileage.
Nick
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You just decide to remove the caveat I included about it being properly managed and cropped for fun?
Charcoal is not covered by the Fair Trade certification scheme.
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Hairyloon
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Charcoal is not covered by the Fair Trade certification scheme. |
Then what are the Fair Trade marks on the Coop's charcoal?
Do you think they are fraudulent? 
sean
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It would appear to be 'fairly traded' not Fair Trade certified. Linky
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Hairyloon
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It would appear to be 'fairly traded' not Fair Trade certified. Linky |
Works for me. I think I trust the co-op that far.
bulworthy project
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I also trust the co-op that far and as production of charcoal in Britain is not currently sufficient to stop importing it, it is a great step forward to import sustainably made charcoal.
It is still better to buy local, sustainably produced charcoal.
I would say that wouldn't I
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Hairyloon
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It is still better to buy local, sustainably produced charcoal.
I would say that wouldn't I |
I'd be disappointed if you didn't. 
sean
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On the other hand they're selling Magic Instant Lighting Charcoal. I'm pretty sure that it's neither magic nor instant.
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Hairyloon
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On the other hand they're selling Magic Instant Lighting Charcoal. I'm pretty sure that it's neither magic nor instant. |
I doubt that it gives off a lot of light either.
Rob R
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It's harder than you think, buying local charcoal - I contacted a local charcoal maker but they wouldn't tell me where I could buy it because they are selling enough & don't want to advertise their stockists because people may approach them & undercut them.  So perhaps Yorkshire charcoal is out of the window & I better start using Devon charcoal.
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Nicky cigreen
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i found a number of places to buy locally produced charcoal just by going to independent shops - local petrol stations often sell it, as do some of the butchers round here.
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Rob R
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I think I'll look out for an alternative local charcoal maker who would appreciate the extra business.
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Hairyloon
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I think I'll look out for an alternative local charcoal maker who would appreciate the extra business. |
How much are you wanting?
Rob R
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I think I'll look out for an alternative local charcoal maker who would appreciate the extra business. |
How much are you wanting?
None, personally, I just want to advise customers of where they can get it locally.
bulworthy project
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I can't pretend that I know any more than he is a charcoal maker and he is based in Yorkshire, but you could try:
http://www.leedswoodcraft.co.uk/
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Rob R
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I can't pretend that I know any more than he is a charcoal maker and he is based in Yorkshire, but you could try:
http://www.leedswoodcraft.co.uk/ |
Excellent, thanks 
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