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resistance is fertile

New 6.5x55

Went to get a new one last night, a TIKKA Lite, left it as it just felt a bit flimsy.

Anyone had experience of these or was it just a duff'un.

Also been offered a cheap mauser?

Its a new cal on my ticket so any advice, or anyone with one to move on let me know! Very Happy
vegplot

I don't have any bolt actions, I have a 7x57 falling block Ruger no.1, but if I did I'd go for this http://www.steyr-mannlicher.com/en/jagdwaffen/pro-hunter/
Brownbear

vegplot wrote:
I don't have any bolt actions, I have a 7x57 falling block Ruger no.1, but if I did I'd go for this http://www.steyr-mannlicher.com/en/jagdwaffen/pro-hunter/


This is my main centrefire rifle. The problem with the Tikka is it's essentially a Sako that's been built down to a price, the plastic cap on the bolt usually lasts about a week, the bolt is loose in the reciever when cycling which can make it feel sticky. I don't like them at all.

If you want a visually appealing rifle, then you'd be better off gritting your teeth and shelling out for the Sako. I tried Sako, but preferred the Steyr for severa reasons.

1. The Mannox coating on the non-stainless version is more rustproof than stainless steel.

2. The plastic stock avoids problems with wood swelling and de-floating the barrel in the sort of lovely weather we get in the UK.

3. The most convincing reason - the safe bolt system. You can chamber a round, engage the safe bolt system and carry the charged rifle in perfect safety; the weapon wouldn't even discharge if you hit it with a hammer. You can't do that with any other rifle - you have to chamber a round within earshot of your quarry, which if it's deer on a still morning or evening will hear it and will be spooked.

Best centrefire rifle I've ever owned.
resistance is fertile

Everything you say about the Tikka is as I found.

Given the safe bolt bit, I think Very Happy Im off to look at some pro-hunters at the weekend!
Brownbear

resistance is fertile wrote:
Everything you say about the Tikka is as I found.

Given the safe bolt bit, I think Very Happy Im off to look at some pro-hunters at the weekend!


You can have a go with mine if you like.
vegplot

Brownbear wrote:
resistance is fertile wrote:
Everything you say about the Tikka is as I found.

Given the safe bolt bit, I think Very Happy Im off to look at some pro-hunters at the weekend!


You can have a go with mine if you like.


It was also one of two recommended rifles when I went on the DSC1 course earlier this year. The other was a Blaser which has an unusual bolt system which I didn't like much.

I hand loaded some ammunition (33.2 gns H4895 driving a 130gn target bullet) for my 7x57 and it's a lot less harsh than the factory ammo I bought (168gn expanding) cheaply for the brass. Going to try 120gn expanding next and sight in for 100 yds 2" high and then put it through some field tests.

I'm a bit miffed as I seem to have mislaid the top cap on my Leupold scope last night.
dpack

hunting kit is as tricky as hunting game
vegplot

dpack wrote:
hunting kit is as tricky as hunting game


It's also a time waster but an enjoyable one.
Treacodactyl

vegplot wrote:
I don't have any bolt actions, I have a 7x57 falling block Ruger no.1, but if I did I'd go for this http://www.steyr-mannlicher.com/en/jagdwaffen/pro-hunter/


Any idea how much one would cost new?
vegplot

I would guess around 1,200-1,300. Second hand ones are around 500-600.

BB will know better than I.
Brownbear

You can get one new for about 750-800 I think, more if you want a sound moderator. For optics, personally, I'd recommend a Schmidt and Bender 8x56 Hungarian scope, and Warne mounts. I've tried all sorts, and that's the best combo I've come across. There's a firearms dealer/range at Moretonhampstead I'd recommend, he goes to the trouble to set the rifle up, takes you on the range to zero it etc.

I can get you the details if you're interested.
vegplot

Found one. 885 inc. vat from http://www.sportsmanguncentre.co.uk

Calibres: 222, .223, .260 .243, .308, .25-06, .30-06, .270, 6.5x55, 7mm-08, .376 Steyr

Much less than I thought.

Heavy barrel version 1,139 (.223, .260 .308 & 300win) so doesn't appear to be available in 6.5x55.
crofter

Brownbear wrote:


1. The Mannox coating on the non-stainless version is more rustproof than stainless steel.



So why make the stainless one at all? Is the coating permanent, or will it need redoing at some point?
vegplot

crofter wrote:
Brownbear wrote:


1. The Mannox coating on the non-stainless version is more rustproof than stainless steel.



So why make the stainless one at all? Is the coating permanent, or will it need redoing at some point?


I would suggest the Manno coating is less durable. As it's a coating it could be abraided off and revewal the steel underneath.

Manno is very, very tough and satisfies those who don't won't a bright sun glinting rifle on the deer shoot and yet has excellent corrosion and durability. Stainless steel, on the other hand is harder and more durable and if you scratch it you just have a scratch. However, it's not a good material for hunting with - too shiny - and there are no effective coatings which can be applied to stainless to reduce this. Hence the Manno coating is often preferable to stainless.
resistance is fertile

Ive found a couple round here which seem reasonably priced, package deal with warne mounts and mod for 900ish.

BB, Is the mannox coat standard on all of the non stainless models?
Brownbear

resistance is fertile wrote:

BB, Is the mannox coat standard on all of the non stainless models?


All the ones made since about 2005 AFAIK.

They still make the stainless because people wan tto buy the stainless, though it's way too hard. The rifling wears too fast and they still rust in any case, just slower than normal steel.

It's applied to bare metal and baked on, it's a type of ceramic and should last as long as the rifle does.
crofter

vegplot wrote:
and there are no effective coatings which can be applied to stainless to reduce this.


Paint?! I have an old stainless rifle, (15 years maybe) which is beginning to show a bit of corrosion here and there, it certainly isn't shiny any more. The mannox sounds pretty good.
vegplot

crofter wrote:
vegplot wrote:
and there are no effective coatings which can be applied to stainless to reduce this.


Paint?! I have an old stainless rifle, (15 years maybe) which is beginning to show a bit of corrosion here and there, it certainly isn't shiny any more. The mannox sounds pretty good.


Due to the high chromium content of stainless steel it's difficult to get anything to adhere to it. It can be dulled through shot blasting but it is still visually intrusive. Also, remember animals such as deer have a higher sensitivity in the ultra violet and see differently to us.
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