| Archive for Downsizer For an ethical approach to consumption |
| Penny |
New Vehicle Excise Duty......a couple of interesting links which I'm not sure have been posted...Find your car's emmisions New duty you will pay based on your car's emissions Wish it did apply to cars before 2001, we'd save loads. Polly (the polo), would only cost £30 a year 
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| Gervase |
Cripes, Land Rover Defender goes off the scale. Just as well I haven't got a new one, otherwise I'd be paying more than double.
Thankfully it only applies to Y-registered or later - and we're never likely to have a car as posh as that. |
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| Bebo |
My road tax next year will be £20. Makes up for the OH's car which will be £260. | ||||||
| RichardW |
But wont older cars get hammered too? Richard |
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| Penny |
At the moment my understanding is that it only applies to cars registered after 2001 - shame really, the Audi is only £120 a year, so we'd be paying £150 for both cars, as opposed to £350 ish we're paying now. |
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| Jamanda |
If ours was new enough to qualify we'd only pay £30. As we can't afford a new one we'll pay the same old tax I think. The car doesn't need replacing - it's perfectly good. Silly really. | ||||||
| RichardW |
Oh I thought the idea was to push older cars off the road by also raising the tax on pre 2001 cars. Hope not as we need a replacment soon & was holding off till we found out what the new tax rules will be.
Richard |
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| lottie |
The is idea is simply to raise more revenue, the rest is just smoke and mirrors--ours is going up and we can't afford to change it or stuff strawbales or feed sacks in a low tax car | ||||||
| Brownbear |
Fortunately, my Navara is classed as a commercial vehicle, so I'll still be paying £180. Blatant tax-grab, gives the public one more bit of evidence that anything 'environmental' is just a means of picking their collective pocket. 'Spin' now convinces only its practitioners and their gullible clients. Everyone else can spot it a mile off and tend never to trust the spinner again. | ||||||
| Jonnyboy |
Well, the evidence now points towards many more people being worse off by this than originally planned, and the actual environmental benefit will be minimal, so any talk of this being a green tax can be dismissed.
Why or why don't they follow the successful system used in Ireland. Pay a decent amount to get really old cars off the road, rather than staging a financial war against cars that are less modern but still have plenty of life in them. And if you want to change behaviour through tax then reduce it somewhere else so that there is the possibility to benefit, rather than the best option available being status quo. |
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| Treacodactyl |
Re: New Vehicle Excise Duty...
I'm sure I posted the DVLA links that give similar details, although they're probably lost in on of the debates. I didn't think pre-2001 cars would necessarily do that well under post-2001 regs as even similarly sized engines would produce more CO2 as their design is different. |
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| marigold |
Re: New Vehicle Excise Duty...The duty on my 1992 1.1l Micra will go up from £115 to £120 (I think). I feel a little resentful as it's done less than 20k miles in it's entire life, but it certainly isn't worth binning it and buying a newer car just to save a few quid on road tax. As usual reducing usage isn't really the prime consideration - if you can afford a new car with a low emission rating you can pay less road tax, drive zillions of miles a year and contribute more CO2 to the atmosphere than a low-mileage old car... and still somehow feel that you are doing your bit to "save the planet". |
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| vegplot |
We have a new one, duty is at the highest level. 
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| Nick |
625 for our two cars. Yippee! | ||||||
| lassemista |
Where did you find this info BB? I am trying to find out how my 2001 Ford Ranger pickup is affected. I can't afford to change it
Andrea. |
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| Jonnyboy |
£150 for our two, and one of those is taxed at £35pa £115 for a 1.2 punto with 136 g co2 seems harsh. |
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| Stacey |
Re: New Vehicle Excise Duty...
My turbo diesel estate would only be £120 (if it was new enough) Why is a 1.1 micra not going to be cheaper? 
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| Jonnyboy |
Because it is not a green tax. | ||||||
| Rob R |
It doesn't go back as far as 1990 models
Not that it would have made any difference, unless they've put the tax up to almost the value of a newer car (I haven't even bothered to look up the details on this latest change). |
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| Jonnyboy |
One interesting point is that VED is not given the prominence it should in new car showrooms, especially as the first years tax is bundled into the purchase price.
If people were asked to pay a seperate cheque directly to the government when first purchasing a vehicle it would make the issue a lot more visible. |
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| Rob R |
Agree with that. For the first year or the lifetime of the vehicle? I'd favour the latter. |
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| vegplot |
It'll be on your V5 vehicle registration document whether it was registered as a commercial vehicle (Light Goods) or private (Private/Light Goods). You'd have to use it in the course of a business for it to be registered as commercial. Have a word with DVLA. |
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| Jonnyboy |
Too complicated, you will be paying for VED on a vehicle you may no longer own. plus the government gets too much money up fornt. |
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| Rob R |
No, a single tax on all new vehicles, what could be simpler? |
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| Treacodactyl |
There will be a 'show room tax' which is a one off fee, along with annual VED. |
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| Jonnyboy |
To completely replace current VED?
Either the additional figures would be massive or revenue from VED would plummet. |
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| vegplot |
It's crossed a previous thread but the VED is a pointless duty whose sole purpose, IMH and naive O, is to keep a significant number of civil servants from being reclassified. |
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| Rob R |
No, to share some of the VED revenue out onto fuel to benefit low frequency users and the rest as a (fairly) hefty lump sump, which would really make the cheaper tax band cars look even more appealing? |
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| Nick |
Perhaps we should tax bikes and horses and all road users? | ||||||
| Stacey |
I'm all for a scheme where all road users have to have some form of license - for traceability more than anything |
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| Jonnyboy |
I wouldn't have a problem with that in principle, but even better why not use the 'sales tax' on high polluting vehicles to discount prices on low polluting ones? It provides an incentive to move to a newer, safer, less polluting vehicle and helps mitigate the increased cost of the newer environmental technology. |
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| Rob R |
That might encourage some people who'd previously decided that having a car was too expensive for them & possibly push car use up, even if it was in the 'greenest' of cars, possibly. | ||||||
| marigold |
Re: New Vehicle Excise Duty...
Something to do with it being old, but not old enough, I think. Unless I've misinterpreted the information (which is quite possible  ).
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| Maxwell Smart |
The thing that really annoys me is it is not when the car was made as they claim but when it was registered. I have an imported 1999 vehicle for which I will pay £440 as it was first registered in the UK after 2001.
The fact that I run it on veggie oil - soon to be waste veggie oil - and only drive it once a month doesn't stand me in any favour.
When as someone pointed out you can have a smaller car - drive it everywhere and everyday - even for distances where you really should walk and still pay less. |
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| Penny |
Taxing use at source - that is at the pump, would seem to be the only truly eco fair way. | ||||||
| Rob R |
Yep, VED's biggest flaw. It ain't what you've got, it's what you do with it that counts. |