| Archive for Downsizer For an ethical approach to consumption |
| Ian33568 |
Now we know who to blame....That's my diet outta the window then........note to self...must eat less cake.http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/health/7404268.stm |
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| lottie |
First it was the smokers, now it's me and all the other fatties---wonder who'll be the fashionable pariahs next year? 
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| cab |
I'm betting on the Scots. |
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well, single mothers are the usual default option | ||||
| Jamanda |
Teachers get a look in too. | ||||
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plus anyone taking time off work/claiming benefits for mental illness | ||||
| sean |
The original paper is from The Lancet, ignore it. It won't have been properly researched/peer-reviewed/had a decent check done on its stats. | ||||
| Behemoth |
So who's our local chip dealer? | ||||
| sean |
No idea. I've never bought chips in Leeds. | ||||
| cab |
Or, at least, apply your own thought filter to it (like you should with anything you read). There are some points in there that are reasonable. |
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| Ian33568 |
I personally believe that studies and reports like this are complete tosh....you could argue that the obese are likely to die earlier therefore their total consumption might actually be lower than those who are considered within normal limits.
What impact does this really have on the world's ills?.....very, very little in the scheme of things. |
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| AnnaD |
Hehe, probably. We are already among the worst for both alcoholism and violence, and I'm sure for eating too much crap as well. |
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| gnome |
the allegation that obese people are a major contribution towards fuel consumption and food shortage is nowhere near as verifiable than the claim that the wealthy are a major contribution to world poverty. anyone want to have a poke at that in a post thatcherite society? | ||||
| cab |
Fair comment. But a claim that maintaining a larger body mass requires more calories, which requires more food to be produced and shipped, is pretty much unremarkably and obviously true. Don't pin all of the worlds ills on fat people, but there are comments quoted there by the BBC I can't disagere with, such as:
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| lottie |
To be honest there aren't crowds of thin people walking and cycling down our lane on their way into town----they all seem to be in cars--several times a week more than me---and once they are parked there I don't think they walk any further round the shops than the more gravitationally challenged. | ||||
| Shane |
And lots of thin people cycling hundreds of miles a week would need one hell of a lot more food that they would if they drove everywhere, too. Admittedly, they'd still use a lot less energy than in moving themselves plus a tonne-and-a-half of car. | ||||
| gnome |
the claim that fat people eat more is utter nonsence. how many overweight people here keep to a strict diet, yet still pile on the pounds whilst their much thinner friends eat like locusts? i know quite a lot of generously proportioned people who eat very little - but the friend who eats the most food (far more than even i - the human pig-bin) is as thin as a rake (Jo knows who i'm talking about)
we all have different metabolisms, and the image of the fatty who is always eating is just a stereotype that whilst probably true for some people, is far from true for all. |
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| lottie |
I am I/C the biscuits for a class I attend and it is very noticeable that the people who stuff 3x as many biccys as anyone else[ including my husband] are the thinnest ones!----I don't eat the biscuits I take but eat an apple at break 
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| Jonnyboy |
Don't mean to be cruel, heartless or insensitive, but all the overweight people I see in work tend to eat far too much and not exercise enough. One close relative who was overweight has been eating less and exercising and has lost at least two stone.
It's not always about eating too much, but in a lot of cases it is. |
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| lottie |
That's why I eat the apple---'cos I know I can't eat the biscuit----it still doesn't explain why some slim people who don't particularly excercise can eat for Britain----of my 5 kids---3 are like their father eating machines on legs who stay slim and 2 have to watch everymouthful and excercise to stop their weight ballooning. |
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| Behemoth |
Mostly, yes, but we all change. I've noticed I've started larding it on with no significant change in input/output. I have significant birthday on Thursday and it's my body's way of saving me from freezing in a cave in my dotage. |
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| Jonnyboy |
IIRC your metabolism slows down as you age, so it's easier to put weight on and harder to get it off. I share your fate if that helps. |
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| gnome |
same here. when i was younger i ate like a horse and looked like an anorexic. thewse days i eat far less, but i'm swelling like a balloon. not actually putting on so much weight now, but still getting fatter. i now have a circunferance. |