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Impressive! Shocked
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dpack

there is so much wrong with that that the only right thing is the way it dropped Rolling Eyes

dismantle rather than drop might have been sensible

hns re saw,petrol,man positions etc etc

the cut didnt seem to have a hinge or a gate

im amazed it went where it needed to and that the butt did not jump was extra lucky

i would not work with them or employ them
Mistress Rose

Not would I Dpack. No helmet, although there is one in the foreground. I would definitely go for cut into sections and lower. The moral though is not to plant a potentially big tree near buildings or not to build near a potentially big tree. That isn't big for a Dougie though. Saw that a little while ago on husbands Forestry Forum. Even the cutter didn't have absolute faith it would go the right way, and even so it didn't do the decking much good.
dpack

like this

well maybe lower all the bits but it isnt much different to what they should have done
vegplot

That's far less exciting.
dpack

i prefer less exciting if i might get squashed Laughing
crofter

Don't think there was any danger of getting squished there, except maybe the house! Taking it down in pieces would have taken much longer, you could rebuild that little bit of deck many times over in the time saved by felling it like they did, plus they ended up with a nice piece of timber...
Hairyloon

the cut didnt seem to have a hinge or a gate

No, but the video was not of a high enough quality to be sure of that: I'm thinking it must've been there and we just can't see it.

What is to the right of the picture or behind the camera?
Presumably whatever it is prevents them from felling in those directions, so might also make it very tricky to dismantle.
A sound tree will nearly always go exactly where you point it, but it is not easy to point a tree so exactly. I wouldn't fancy it, but I'd certainly like to give the customer that option, provided he signs the disclaimer. Wink
Mistress Rose

There is what looks like an electricity pole on the right, so I would suspect there is a power line across there.

Still not the sort of thing I would have anyone do near my house. I am not so sure about trees always going where you point them. Very few trees are dead straight all the way up with a completely even canopy, and it only takes a slight wind to send them off course as well. Conifers like that are easier than broadleaves, but you wouldn't believe the mess some of them can get themselves into even if they are not very tall.
Hairyloon

I am not so sure about trees always going where you point them.

I always inspect my hinge after a fell, especially if it did not go quite where I wanted it: most always the reason that it didn't is evidenced by the cut.
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Very few trees are dead straight all the way up with a completely even canopy, and it only takes a slight wind to send them off course as well.
A good hinge should steer it straight. Though as already observed: there is not much evidence of a hinge on the video. Ty Gwyn

The video quality was poor,first time i watched it ,it looked like the man was cutting from the direction of fall,
It would naturally have a V cut in the direction of fall,and i would`nt be surprised if there was a rope from the tree to the tractor taking up tension.
onemanband

Pause vid at 1:14 / 1:15 looks like pivoting on a v cut to me.



i would`nt be surprised if there was a rope from the tree to the tractor taking up tension.

I had wondered that, but not something I have experience of and wondered if that tractor is heavy enough to do that.
dpack

having had a few more views of the video

i cant see anything that looks like a hinge.
the way the trunk slipped off the butt makes me think there must have been a gate but it isnt visible as far as i can see.

or for that matter any hint of a tension rope .

watching the last stage it seems that the wedges were what tipped it over,perhaps it was leaning a bit in the right direction but as above centre of gravity issues even with a fairly strait tree can be a bit unpredictable.
Hairyloon

Whatever way you look at it, it worked. Jam Lady

When Paul cuts trees he makes a felling notch, then makes a cut from the opposite side, higher up. He calls it a hinge.

Back in October 2010 a friend helped drop a tree too big for Paul to tackle. He used wedges, which really interested me as it was not a technique with which we were familiar.



This happened up in the wood lot, so no house to drop it on. None-the-less, it went just where it was wanted to fall.

Of course I made an entry for my web site, which you can see here: http://www.bellewood-gardens.com/2010/Making%20Firewood_2010-12.html

There are some pictures of firewood, the tree he took down, and cutting it up.
dpack

the way your pal dropped that is tidy,and the top of the gate(notch) can easily be seen on the cut trunk( unlike the one under scrutiny)

wedges are ace not just for fine direction control(and for tipping a big one) but also for releasing the bar if the tree sits back onto the cut
Jam Lady

Oh yeah, pinch the bar and then stand back as the powerful language is released! That's where Paul likes the plastic wedges. Safer for the chain.

There was another interesting tree dropping earlier that same year for which we hired a company. Would have been so easy to drop it on the Forest Deck. Mike was the only one who'd even consider it, and he took two weeks to think about it plus a visit with his foreman.

http://www.bellewood-gardens.com/2010/Tree%20Cutting_2010-04.html
Hairyloon

Fairly obvious really: if you cannot take it down, then best put it back up. Wink Mistress Rose

The sort that hang up are the worst. A good job, but notice they still got a split out at the base.

We use wedges with aluminium ends, plastic, or even wood to guide the tree in the right direction. Trouble is, when there are trees all around, it is difficult to avoid hangups. We have recently got a winch to help us get them in the right position, pull them out and generally extract where we can't get the forwarder in.
Jam Lady

There must be about a dozen widow makers hung up along the ridge crest. They uprooted, toppled, and hung up in Superstorm Sandy a few years ago. They can stay there until they rot and fall. Too dangerous for us, too expensive to hire it done. They're out of the way. Happy woodpeckers.

And we're still cutting, moving, splitting etc what toppled. There are a few down in the woods, right across the drainage creek. Difficult to cut and how to get them up and out of there - we'll work on the more maneuverable stuff first.

The storm damaged over 20 trees, mature red oaks - Quercus rubra. So sad.
dpack

winch is the tool for hung ones Jam Lady

These are meter plus diameter at base, weighty red oak, healthy when toppled so lots of branches interlaced with branches of the trees they crashed into. Not level ground, they're on a slope.

Tell you what - if you're ever in the area give me a call. We can go take a look at them and you can offer suggestions. Looking forward to hearing from you. Soon?
dpack

from here i recon insect /bird heaven and dont get too close Laughing

fallen and tangled are super for wildlife
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