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Cathryn

Quick books?

Is this still the thing to use if you are running a business such as a farm that has frequent expenses and infrequent income?
earthyvirgo

Re: Quick books?

Is this still the thing to use if you are running a business such as a farm that has frequent expenses and infrequent income?


If it is - use it very carefully, specially the VAT aspect.
We had a horrendous experience that we'd rather forget with it miscalculating VAT about 10 years ago.

I think BA still uses it.

EV
vegplot

Have a look at Freeagent...

http://www.freeagent.com/
Rob R

Have a look at Freeagent...

http://www.freeagent.com/


Coffee over the keyboard moment when I clicked 'pricing' Shocked
Cathryn

Thanks for the warning. It was watching him do VAT that reminded me to ask! Shan

About 5 years ago qb corrupted my vat control file and created 2..... Not fun. vegplot

Have a look at Freeagent...

http://www.freeagent.com/

Coffee over the keyboard moment when I clicked 'pricing' Shocked

It's on par with QuickBooks and in my opinion a far better product.
Cathryn

We watched the demo and it really doesn't suit the relatively simple accounts that the business has. It doesn't send out invoices, month by month forecasts are not appropriate.

Rob have you ever looked at Farmplan?
vegplot

We watched the demo and it really doesn't suit the relatively simple accounts that the business has. It doesn't send out invoices, month by month forecasts are not appropriate.

Rob have you ever looked at Farmplan?

Freeagent? It most certainly does send out invoices.

Have you looked at Sliq? We use this for simple invoicing for one side of the business. Works well enough and is very inexpensive but it's not bookkeeping but does has simple reporting and data export.
Cathryn

Sorry, I didn't explain myself clearly. This (the farm) business doesn't. It doesn't actually need very much of what those packages offer. Cathryn

The farm is also a part of the Farm Business Survey so detailed figures get done by an expert on a yearly basis. It gives figures for cost per lamb and shows how the farm is doing. I guess we might have to look again at it if this stops.

I was thinking that we could do with getting into the 21st century. Smile

We are though, just someone else does it for us. Wink
Rob R

Have a look at Freeagent...

http://www.freeagent.com/

Coffee over the keyboard moment when I clicked 'pricing' Shocked

It's on par with QuickBooks and in my opinion a far better product.

240 is a lot more than I paid for quickbooks, and I've used it for multiple years, the Freeagent price is per annum. If I were to change it every four years it would cost 10 times the price. It must be significantly better to justify that kind of outlay.
Rob R

Rob have you ever looked at Farmplan?

No, my main trouble is that we fall into a category half way between farm accounting & a 'normal' business. Most things seem to work for one or the other (not sure if this does or whether it is built with diversification in mind, I'll look into it).
vegplot

Have a look at Freeagent...

http://www.freeagent.com/

Coffee over the keyboard moment when I clicked 'pricing' Shocked

It's on par with QuickBooks and in my opinion a far better product.

240 is a lot more than I paid for quickbooks, and I've used it for multiple years, the Freeagent price is per annum. If I were to change it every four years it would cost 10 times the price. It must be significantly better to justify that kind of outlay.

The price disparity between similar functionality isn't really an issue when you compare like for like.
vegplot

Sorry, I didn't explain myself clearly. This (the farm) business doesn't. It doesn't actually need very much of what those packages offer.

What do you need?
Rob R

Have a look at Freeagent...

http://www.freeagent.com/

Coffee over the keyboard moment when I clicked 'pricing' Shocked

It's on par with QuickBooks and in my opinion a far better product.

240 is a lot more than I paid for quickbooks, and I've used it for multiple years, the Freeagent price is per annum. If I were to change it every four years it would cost 10 times the price. It must be significantly better to justify that kind of outlay.

The price disparity between similar functionality isn't really an issue when you compare like for like.

The link only showed one option, which for me was 20 per month, so I can only compare it on that basis. It may well be worth the money for what it does but it's a waste if you don't need 90% of it.
vegplot

It may well be worth the money for what it does but it's a waste if you don't need 90% of it.

That's true of most things. I wasn't being specific about end use or user needs.
JohnB

If you want something for nothing, Adminsoft doesn't seem bad. I've had a play around with it and it seems to work pretty well. You can pay to remove the advertising if you want, but it's not intrusive. http://www.adminsoftware.biz

It has lots of features, including payroll with RTI, but you can run it in a simplified mode. Of course I haven't tried that, given my background! I'm not sure if I'll be using it yet. I'll admit I found it a bit annoying, as I was trying to customise it, and some of the complex features needed quite a bit of setting up to work properly, but that shouldn't bother anyone who didn't run an accounting services business for years, was a Sage dealer, and did all sorts of things with Sage that Sage themselves didn't think could be done Very Happy.
Mistress Rose

We gave up with Quickbooks and use Sage now. You can customise it fairly well, and while I don't understand it properly, you can use it on all sorts of levels. I use it at the simplest level, so if the business expands, we ever get someone who understands these things, or whatever, it is there. It also has the advantage that the accountant uses it, so it makes it simpler for them to check the books. Barefoot Andrew

I do indeed use Quickbooks. I've found it a delight to use. Setting up VAT in the first instance is a bit of a pain, but a doddle to use thereafter. I know VP and EV had a nasty incident with VAT miscalculation, but thus far it has worked a dream for me.
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Shan

Wait until it gets unstable.... Barefoot Andrew

If that ever happened I'd just revert the QBW files to the last known good copy. Backups, backups, backups... Wink
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Nick

Wait until it gets unstable....

You're preaching to the hard of hearing. He's the one person that still willingly has a blackberry.
Barefoot Andrew

Bah. All of the above do what I want, and well.
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vegplot

QuickBooks make you poor and keeps you that way. Shan

Wait until it gets unstable....

You're preaching to the hard of hearing. He's the one person that still willingly has a blackberry.

Poor deluded man....
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