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tahir

Remote reboots

Is there a way of rebooting remote servers? Our servers are split over two sites and it's always a pain in the rear to get the remote ones rebooted.
Bugs

Ooh. One I know the answer to. Kinda. Yes, because we have such a set-up, and it's virtually foolproof, because I've done it a few times when I get in early and suddenly find we don't have a website or indeed any documents to work on any more Shocked .

Not surprisingly I know nothing about how it works but I know a man who does. I'm sure someone else here will help more quickly but I'll give him a prod just in case if you like
tahir

That would be handy, ta Wink
Bugs

Duly prodded. Just off to wash my hands and wait for an answer.
tahir

Laughing
jema

Setting up a web service that would to a remote reboot would be easy. If you can run a web server, I can give you remote reboot code.
tahir

Doesn't the server have to be at least partly up for that to function? I need a solution that can reboot even a blue screened machine.
Treacodactyl

What do you do when you realise you've left a floppy disk in the drive?
jema

tahir wrote:
Doesn't the server have to be at least partly up for that to function? I need a solution that can reboot even a blue screened machine.


Blue Screened Rolling Eyes is this windows then?

on unix boxes it is pretty rare for a machine to be so dead you can not connect to it at all.
tahir

We've only got one Linux server, the other 4 are all Windows
tahir

Treacodactyl wrote:
What do you do when you realise you've left a floppy disk in the drive?


Floppies? Can't think of the last time we used any of them.
Northern_Lad

Bugs wrote:
Duly prodded. Just off to wash my hands and wait for an answer.


If it's a full-blooded techie then you might want to get your jabs topped up too.
Treacodactyl

Northern_Lad wrote:
Bugs wrote:
Duly prodded. Just off to wash my hands and wait for an answer.


If it's a full-blooded techie then you might want to get your jabs topped up too.


I'm a bit of a techie, sort of a vaccine. All the harmful techie bits are no longer useable.
Northern_Lad

Treacodactyl wrote:
Northern_Lad wrote:
Bugs wrote:
Duly prodded. Just off to wash my hands and wait for an answer.


If it's a full-blooded techie then you might want to get your jabs topped up too.


I'm a bit of a techie, sort of a vaccine. All the harmful techie bits are no longer useable.


Cue Behemoth, and some reference to TD inoculating Bugs...
jema

back on topic a bit, you can get remote relays that will cut the power, but this is for desparate measures only.

I'd certainly want to try a softer approach with a simple service listening on a port that could be remotely triggered. The code is quite trivial.
tahir

I'll have a look around
jema

tahir wrote:
I'll have a look around


I may also, i'm tempted to give you a quote Very Happy but surely this has been done loads of times in the public domain.
tahir

Let me know if you find anything.
jema

This seems close at a glance.

http://www.newobjects.com/product.asp?Category=27
sean

Oh, stop flirting you two. It'll just upset jonnyboy.
tahir

It's not even pinging right now, that'd make that tool useless, it's a TCP based thingie. Does sound good for not so serious crashes though, and it's freeware
Bugs

sean wrote:
Oh, stop flirting you two. It'll just upset jonnyboy.


I think the open aspect is what keeps the sparkle in it for them....although discussing pinging is probably taking advantage of the situation Confused
tahir

There's another similar freeware product here:

http://www.sysinternals.com/Utilities/PsTools.html

I like the look of this but it means opening up the servers:

http://www.servprise.com/info/
tahir

The hardware solution needs the servers to be running Java, I'm not sure I've got that on any of them
jema

Presumably though they are all password protected. No one would be able to reboot without a password.
tahir

Yup, shame though cos I really don't want to be installing Java too.
JB

For those occasionally required windows reboots something like this could work.
tahir

Laughing
tahir

Just been and had a look at the iffy server, it's a hardware problem, just beeping on boot-up, nothing to screen at all. Engineer booked.
dougal

tahir wrote:
... it's a hardware problem, just beeping on boot-up, ....


If you have the manuals, you could look up the codes for the POST beeps and find out what it was trying to tell you... could be bad ram or a duff video card... the sort of thing anyone might be capable of swapping out?

Re remote reboots.
I think you need a triple pronged strategy.
1/ If its still behaving more or less sanely, a software solution should allow a remote operator to instruct it to restart.
2/ If its locked up solid, a hardware/software watchdog could interrupt the power. I'm thinking of a simple script running regularly (on the minute?) to reset a countdown timer. If not reset the counter would time out, and either interrupt power (could be done externally) or generate a hardware reset (the button is just going to link to a couple of pins on the logic board - so why not another relay/SSswitch in parallel with the front panel one?)
3/ But when it won't respond to remote requests, but the software watchdog keeps running, you need a human to go round and kick the thing. Shouldn't happen too often... Laughing
tahir

dougal wrote:
when it won't respond to remote requests, but the software watchdog keeps running, you need a human to go round and kick the thing. Shouldn't happen too often... Laughing


That's where I fell down today, there was no-one on site that I could risk having in the computer room, had to go round and kick it myself.
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