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jema

Server under attack again

Started in the early evening yesterday, and is still being clobbered, I have countermeasures that are keeping things live, but the attack is fairly heavy.
Jonnyboy

Good luck, I have the tinfoil hats ready.
Penny

I can ney hold her together much longer captain Shocked
Behemoth

Oh for a photon torpedo or two.
jema

or about 400 which seems to be the total size of the botnet Confused
bingo

Jonnyboy wrote:
Good luck, I have the tinfoil hats ready.


Me too and have ti foiled all of the electrical stuff in the house in true Joe from eastenders style.


Becki

Is it clingons? Laughing
RichardW

Becki wrote:
Is it clingons? Laughing


You dont need tinfoil for those just plain old bog paper Shocked


Justme
Penny

Becki wrote:
Is it clingons? Laughing


On the starboard bow in their hundreds Sad
jema

Back on topic Wink

At the peak there were more than 450 concurrent attacks by my reckoning. e.g. 466 different IPs involved.

We are now down to about 50, which is a drop the the 120-150 or so that were hitting us until just a few minutes ago.
vegplot

jema wrote:
Back on topic Wink

At the peak there were more than 450 concurrent attacks by my reckoning. e.g. 466 different IPs involved.

We are now down to about 50, which is a drop the the 120-150 or so that were hitting us until just a few minutes ago.


Can you not kill the DDOS attack at the router level?
jema

Does not work like that with the servers.

We can to some degree firewall at the actual server.
vegplot

jema wrote:
Does not work like that with the servers.

We can to some degree firewall at the actual server.


Yikes, very hands on. Good luck!
jema

it is over for now anyway, or to be accurate down to a very very few.
Jamanda

Jema, can I ask exactly what happens during an attack? I don't understand at all. Embarassed
vegplot

Jamanda wrote:
Jema, can I ask exactly what happens during an attack? I don't understand at all. Embarassed


When you visit a web page you browser send requests to the server hosting the website for the web files. Web servers are used to dealing with reasonably large number of site visitors without any undue problems.

However, there are some instances when a server, or a single web site, is the target for an atttack. It would be difficult for a single user, you for instance, to generate enough requests to slow down a server. So the attacker uses a distributed network of infected machines (users PC's) to do that job for them.

It can be very nasty if the attack is large and prolonged. Some high profiles sites have been down for days during such an attack.
Jamanda

So what causes it. Does some malicious person decide they are going to attack DS, or is it random?
vegplot

Jamanda wrote:
Does some malicious person decide they are going to attack DS


Most are deliberate attacks, but others can be random.

The reasons are varied:

* Cyber warfare between opposing groups of malicious coders proving how good they are
* Criminal gangs disrupting system for personal gain
* Intercountry cyber warfare (I'm not sure this has ever been proven)
* Competitors
* Because they can
* Have a grudge

and a host of other reasons.
jema

You never know quite what, I do know that over the last few weeks I discovered some extremely nasty forums on the free forums system and killed them off, so may be that has provoked something Confused
Slim

They're just jealous of our stunning wit and good looks
jema

Well over two hours now since anything got as far as hitting the web server.

This was not to be clear an attack on downsizer.net, but an attack on the server we are on.

With servers you have two choices, we could be on my little UK based Trillian server that is cheap and cheerful and by virtue of doing little aside from downsizer.net might even be faster most of the time.

Or we can be on one of my very powerful servers along with a lot of other things and risk being caught up in attacks against the server itself or sites other than downsizer.net.

You might think it obvious to go with the little server, but with a little server if an attack does take place, or even if something suddenly proves especially popular on the site, then the small server struggles a lot more badly. Everything about the big server from the hardware to the support is better geared to dealing with trouble when it arises.
Slim

just glad there's someone behind the scenes making it all keep flowing! Very Happy
cab

cpg03 wrote:
just glad there's someone behind the scenes making it all keep flowing! Very Happy


Theres a reason why he's got a wizard for an icon. He's quiet about this kind of thing, and he doesn't always get the thanks he deserves.
Rob R

cab wrote:
and he doesn't always get the thanks he deserves.


If ever
Jamanda

Thank you Jema Very Happy
sean

Rob R wrote:
cab wrote:
and he doesn't always get the thanks he deserves.


If ever


He does, he's been allowed to sleep in the house for months and months now.
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