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wildfoodie

shocking report and images of mega meatfarm operations

linky
from the ecologist.
Rob R

Aye but they might be better than pasture feeding for greenhouse gas emissions...

Not that you need to buy a book to see them, they stand out clear enough on Google Earth.
Ty Gwyn

A lot of words,but not much info,

More like a fund raising exercise to me.
Rob R

Quote:
An estimated 16 pounds of grain are needed to produce just 1 pound of beef


No, are used, not needed. Rolling Eyes
Rob R

Number 10 is a bit misleading too - it doesn't seem to make clear that the pens in the foreground are loading pens, as opposed to feeding pens. The feeding pens are bad enough, as can be seen in the background.
Mrs R

Quote:
An estimated 16 pounds of grain are needed to produce just 1 pound of beef


No, are used, not needed. Rolling Eyes


*high five*


.... sigh
wildfoodie

I still think the images in this report are shocking, and these methods of intensively raising animals for meat are unacceptable, both in terms of animal welfare and environmental degradation.
Tavascarow

I still think the images in this report are shocking, and these methods of intensively raising animals for meat are unacceptable, both in terms of animal welfare and environmental degradation.

In terms of animal welfare I agree with you, also I would worry what eating intensively reared meat is doing for human health.
But in terms of environmental degradation extensive livestock farming can be & is far more damaging IMHO.
wildfoodie

tavascarow wrote:
But in terms of environmental degradation extensive livestock farming can be & is far more damaging IMHO.


http://www.pigbusiness.co.uk/the_film/
VSS

I suspect this is hardly a very balanced view - as usual with this type of article Rolling Eyes

While the masses want cheap food animals will continue to to reared intensively on large units that can take advantage of the economies of scale.

I don't "get" the picture of the cow's head - any abbatoir will have the same.

I don't believe that we will ever see the enormous farms seen in the US and Asia because we simply do not have the space in the UK. I am not particularly for or against projects like Nocton - each should be judged on it's own merits.

This type of article doesn't help people make informed decisions based on the facts.
Tavascarow

tavascarow wrote:
But in terms of environmental degradation extensive livestock farming can be & is far more damaging IMHO.


http://www.pigbusiness.co.uk/the_film/
Intensification of farming intensifies waste problems, I fully agree. But groundwater pollution is a problem with livestock farming generally, not just the intensive sector.
I have a friend who has his own well.
He's surrounded by dairy farms.
All family businesses & none intensive.
Animals grazing outdoors for most of the year.
He has been told he should only drink his water if it's boiled & also has high levels of nitrates.
You also need to look at how much pasture is being ruined every year by overstocking, & the amount of rainforest being felled for pasture, which far exceeds the amount felled for soya production.
There are too many animals, full stop. Be they intensive, extensive or in between.
We need to eat less meat & consume less dairy.
(IMHO).
crofter

I don't "get" the picture of the cow's head - any abbatoir will have the same.


Also, if it was from an "industrial" scale business, it would be in a skip with hundreds of other heads, not in an old barrel. Or more likely the meat would be recovered from the heads to be turned into mince, for maximum efficiency.
Ty Gwyn

Dont know about other areas,but the head is skinned before being removed from carcase around here.
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