jema
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Social networkingEarly days, but the latest project.
The idea is that any existing phpbb2 forum, could with the aid of a little code, plug into a big network.
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sean
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I detest social networking sites with every fibre of my being. Having said that there seems to be a massive market for this stuff so good luck with it.
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Barefoot Andrew
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Blimey, is there no end to the man's talents...
Good luck!
A.
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Barefoot Andrew
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| sean wrote: | | I detest social networking sites with every fibre of my being. |
Straight to the point then 
A.
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sean
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It's the 'friends' bit that I can't stand. Well, and just about all the rest of it to be honest.
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jema
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| sean wrote: | | I detest social networking sites with every fibre of my being. Having said that there seems to be a massive market for this stuff so good luck with it. |
I won't even have a "chat" client on my PCs, I also hate the area 
But :
1) it is massive.
2) half of my forums end up with a "chatbox" from somewhere on them anyway.
So I may as well go with the flow. it will be fun to write anyway. All web2.0 with windows people can play with.
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Nick
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Why don't we have a chat box?
I mean, apart from the obvious (they're crap, I hate them, You hate them, Sean hates them, they become full of scriptkiddies, Bingo, etc).
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Cathryn
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why? My children enjoy them. I have never looked, but I will now 
Seriously
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Nick
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Oh, they're intolerable. It's like being in a room with Sun readers. Or on public transport.
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Cathryn
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 so helpful
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Nick
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Go join your average chat room type area. Your eyeballs with burn and your teeth will itch.
u wnt 2 spk lk ths wth ph00lz wot r 13?
a/s/l? lolz!!!!1!
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jema
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I see the darn things all the time, they are like a plague infecting my forums 
The chances of seeing an intelligent conversation are about the same as an infinite bunch of monkeys on an infinite number of typewriters coming up with a script for Macbeth
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Becki
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I went on one out of curiosity. I had some 19yr old kid try to pull me.
I love them
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Nick
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| jema wrote: |
The chances of seeing an intelligent conversation are about the same as an infinite bunch of monkeys on an infinite number of typewriters coming up with a script for Macbeth |
So, that's 100%, then?
And as for you Becki, I'm shocked. No, no I'm not. I'd expect nothing less. Did you do him?
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Becki
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Of course, what do you take me for?
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Barefoot Andrew
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| Nick wrote: | u wnt 2 spk lk ths wth ph00lz wot r 13?
a/s/l? lolz!!!!1! |
You have presumably learnt to do this for no other reason than to be able to communicate with your own children in their native language.
A.
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Nick
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| Becki wrote: | | Of course, what do you take me for? |
£8.75 an hour.
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Becki
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Deal
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Fee
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Excellent idea, jema, good luck
Or should I say xlnt ID, j, gud luk
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Rob R
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I wonder if constructing a proper sentences in messages annoys your kids as much as... whatever you call it
I never got the hang of writing texts in such code, have to write it out properley & then think of ways to edit it down to a single message (and most people probably aren't tight enough to bother)
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Barefoot Andrew
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| Rob R wrote: | | (and most people probably aren't tight enough to bother) |
I'm definitely with you on this... why pay an extra 10p (or more) when concise - yet standard - English can do the job...
A.
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Rob R
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I try & do it so I don't use up my 400 3p texts a month
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Penny
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| Becki wrote: | | Deal |
Charge him at least £50 an hour ... he's got a posh car and stuff 
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Nick
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It's not mine. It belongs to the company. Now, if you take credit cards and give VAT receipts...
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jema
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boringly back on topic, a new logo attempt, and the windows can now be both moved and using the bottom bar resized
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Rob R
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MyFreeFriends.org
Are you doing a different version especially for prisoners then?
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Jamanda
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What does Amiphist think? She's more the target audience than us oldies I'd have thought.
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jema
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| Jamanda wrote: | | What does Amiphist think? She's more the target audience than us oldies I'd have thought. |
She likes purple
Actually both the kids seem actually impressed 
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Cathryn
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In my day...
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sean
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| ruby wrote: | In my day...
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You'd have been out with your boyfriend on the bit of countryside that was heavily monitored by men with binoculars. I seem to remember.
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Cathryn
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Last time I touch anything alcoholic at your place. 
(I don't remember telling you that  )
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sean
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You posted it on here. I can find the thread if you like.
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Cathryn
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No thats ok...
no more sloe gin, no more red wine, the list grows
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Jamanda
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Goodnight (again) Ruby! - I was worried I didn't remember you talking about that either!
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Nick
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Confession. I have signed up to facebook tonight, because I wanted to catch up with a handful of old friends. Sob.
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Jamanda
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| Nick wrote: | | Confession. I have signed up to facebook tonight, because I wanted to catch up with a handful of old friends. Sob. |
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Cathryn
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Jamanda, remember last night's conversation about mid life crisis?
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wellington womble
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| jema wrote: | | Jamanda wrote: | | What does Amiphist think? She's more the target audience than us oldies I'd have thought. |
She likes purple
Actually both the kids seem actually impressed |
Then it's probably great!
I never text anymore - it's soooooo much quicker just ring people up and talk to them! At least it would be, if I could remember where I put my mobile 
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Fee
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I love Facebook, I'm back in touch with so many old friends, it's great.
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Calli
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It does seem to be the way forward, I have only just discovered all this tagging and web 2.0 there's just so much to learn out there.
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Marionb
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Is Facebook the same sort of thing as MSN??
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hedgewitch
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| Calli wrote: | | It does seem to be the way forward, I have only just discovered all this tagging and web 2.0 there's just so much to learn out there. |
I've got someone here complaining you're ripping him off. Trouble with social networking is everyone knows what you're up to.
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Calli
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Thought you might have Hedgewitch
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Fee
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| Marionb wrote: | | Is Facebook the same sort of thing as MSN?? |
No, it's ...well, here's a description from them:
| www.facebook.com wrote: | | Facebook is a social utility that connects people with friends and others who work, study and live around them. People use Facebook to keep up with friends, upload an unlimited number of photos, share links and videos, and learn more about the people they meet. |
Through various groups set up for the schools I attended, I've got in touch with old friends I'd lost contact with. The nice thing is that those friends are in touch with other friends, and on and on, and suddenly, you're in touch with loads of people from school, college, university, old workplaces, etc. Then sooo many people find you too, and request to be your friend.
It's quite good to keep up-to-date with current friends too, sharing photos, quizzes, and loads of other things.
It's great for people like me, who are useless at keeping in touch with people!!!
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hedgewitch
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| Calli wrote: | | Thought you might have Hedgewitch |
Yeah, but it should be mine, all mine....
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Calli
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| hedgewitch wrote: | | Calli wrote: | | Thought you might have Hedgewitch |
Yeah, but it should be mine, all mine.... |
Well of course antisocial networking!
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Marionb
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| Fee wrote: | | Marionb wrote: | | Is Facebook the same sort of thing as MSN?? |
No, it's ...well, here's a description from them:
| www.facebook.com wrote: | | Facebook is a social utility that connects people with friends and others who work, study and live around them. People use Facebook to keep up with friends, upload an unlimited number of photos, share links and videos, and learn more about the people they meet. |
Through various groups set up for the schools I attended, I've got in touch with old friends I'd lost contact with. The nice thing is that those friends are in touch with other friends, and on and on, and suddenly, you're in touch with loads of people from school, college, university, old workplaces, etc. Then sooo many people find you too, and request to be your friend.
It's quite good to keep up-to-date with current friends too, sharing photos, quizzes, and loads of other things.
It's great for people like me, who are useless at keeping in touch with people!!! |
...That sounds pretty much like MSN to me..... I'm on MSN but hardly anyone else I know is... I wonder if they are on Facebook instead..
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Rob R
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Social Notworking... that's ds isn't it?
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judith
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| Calli wrote: | | Well of course antisocial networking! |
Now that I do like the sound of
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Fee
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| Marionb wrote: |
...That sounds pretty much like MSN to me..... I'm on MSN but hardly anyone else I know is... I wonder if they are on Facebook instead.. |
Sorry, I've obviously mistook what you meant by MSN?
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Calli
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Re: Social networking | jema wrote: |
The idea is that any existing phpbb2 forum, could with the aid of a little code, plug into a big network. |
A very big network.....
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Marionb
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| Fee wrote: | | Marionb wrote: |
...That sounds pretty much like MSN to me..... I'm on MSN but hardly anyone else I know is... I wonder if they are on Facebook instead.. |
Sorry, I've obviously mistook what you meant by MSN? |
I meant the MSN messenger thing...
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hedgewitch
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| sean wrote: | | I detest social networking sites with every fibre of my being. Having said that there seems to be a massive market for this stuff so good luck with it. |
Sean, how much do you detest the terminology and the trendiness rather than the technologies? I loath the term 'friends' for people in a network, and the teenage mutant spin on everything - 'cool' links? I want to see interesting links, informative links, sites that might interest me. And I'd like my social network to delete anyone who used the word 'dude' - including teenagers. But I use online chat/messaging to have conversations and share information and ideas with colleagues and clients. We write in complete sentences about such 'un-cool' topics as electronic copyright legislation and meta-data standards.
And I'm just looking into using social tagging/bookmarking with colleagues working in research so we can share stuff we've found online without the endless emails we send at the moment. The emails drive me mad - I always forgot to bookmark the link and then can't find the darned email by the time I want to use the information and have only a vague memory that.there might be something useful someone sent me. With social bookmarking, I can just log on and see the links, and easily add notes of my own and/or read what someone else noted.
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Calli
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If you are going to start on bookmarking I will have to mention semantics and the remembering to hide certain sites relating to pit ponies and canaries
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hedgewitch
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| Calli wrote: | | If you are going to start on bookmarking I will have to mention semantics and the remembering to hide certain sites relating to pit ponies and canaries |
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hedgewitch
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| judith wrote: | | Calli wrote: | | Well of course antisocial networking! |
Now that I do like the sound of |
I think this is a winner. I bet even Sean will go for this one
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sean
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| hedgewitch wrote: | | sean wrote: | | I detest social networking sites with every fibre of my being. Having said that there seems to be a massive market for this stuff so good luck with it. |
Sean, how much do you detest the terminology and the trendiness rather than the technologies? |
I think that's what I really dislike. The abuse of the word 'friend' particularly sticks in my craw. I reckon I've got five real friends at the most. And I'm married to one of them. Friendship is important and shouldn't be debased by some sort of on-line beauty contest.
Also, unless you're living in a mud hut and relying on a camel-train passing in the right direction to send messages, you've lost touch with people for a reason. Accept it and move on.
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Nick
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Well, that's harsh. People move about, and you stay in touch, or not. You've not problem doing this by using a phone, or a letter, I guess? So why not a website?
However, making 2,546,324 friends online isn't quite the same as the real thing, I'll grant you.
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sean
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I *never* said that I wasn't harsh. I'm just not much of one for 'getting back in touch' with people. You stay in touch or you don't.
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Jamanda
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| sean wrote: | | I *never* said that I wasn't harsh. I'm just not much of one for 'getting back in touch' with people. You stay in touch or you don't. |
When you say "you" stay in touch that would be me would it?
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bagpuss
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Its interesting every so often on livejournal (blogging rather than social networking) the fact that the term friend isn't really appropriate comes up and the semantics of what friends really means comes up
on livejournal with one or two exceptions most of my friends are actual friends
I guess aquaintance would be a technically more accurate term for many of my "friends" on facebook but I guess it sounds a lot less personal
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Fee
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The 'friends' thing is a funny one, acquaintances might be a better word for a lot of the people I have as 'friends' online, but then there's an awful lot of people who at one stage or another in my life, I would def. class as friends.
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sally_in_wales
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I don't have a major problem with the use of friend to describe poeple who you get on well with even if the only contact you have with them is online. To me, a friend is someone with whom you can discuss matters of mutual interest and feel relaxed enough to drift slightly offtopic and back again without causing offence. If you can't do that, they are perhaps colleagues if its a work environment or contacts if its more logistical or any number of other descriptives depending on context.
There are also, to me, different levels of friends, some you can turn up on their doorstep afte 10 years and its all fine, others you like immensly but would never dream of dropping in on. Don't really get why the use of 'friend' shouldnt apply to someone you only know online
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sean
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I don't think that the word 'friend' shouldn't be used for someone you met on-line. It's the 'Friends' system on things like MySpace which gets on my nerves.
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bingo
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Sean, how about, online buddy?
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Rob R
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| sean wrote: | | I don't think that the word 'friend' shouldn't be used for someone you met on-line. |
Well, if it makes you happy; you're no friend of mine
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Becki
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Or me
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Jamanda
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Could I just make sure everyone knows that I do not agree with my husband AKA (by his friends ) Chief Grumpy Barsteward on this matter.
There's plenty of people on here I would consider friends
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Jamanda
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I must now humbly apologise for not reading the post properly.
It says "shouldn't".
Very clumsy sentence structure if you ask me.
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Snowball
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It's no wonder he's grumpy, Jamanda, he has only got 5 friends.
It is an interesting question though; How do you define a friend as opposed to an acquaintance?
There are certainly different levels of friendship, and I certainly consider a few people on here to be friends.
I wont be Sean's friend though, I don't want to upset him.
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Barefoot Andrew
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| Snowball wrote: | | I wont be Sean's friend though, I don't want to upset him. |
Yes but, if...
| Snowball wrote: | | It's no wonder he's grumpy, Jamanda, he has only got 5 friends. |
...is true maybe we should all be Sean's friend.
A.
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bingo
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| Jamanda wrote: |
There's plenty of people on here I would consider friends |
Me too, Nick being my best at this current time.
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Jamanda
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Bingo, you do make me laugh! Nick's away for a day or two I believe. I'm sure you'll miss him.
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bingo
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I won't. I think he's rude.
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Jamanda
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| bingo wrote: | | I won't. I think he's rude. |
He's a lovely man. He brought me half a dead sheep today. What more can you ask?
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bingo
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| Jamanda wrote: | | bingo wrote: | | I won't. I think he's rude. |
He's a lovely man. He brought me half a dead sheep today. What more can you ask? |
Um, to bring dead animals round but not be rude?
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Jamanda
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Sean says he wasn't rude. And also appropriately friendly
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bingo
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| Nick wrote: | Why don't we have a chat box?
I mean, apart from the obvious (they're crap, I hate them, You hate them, Sean hates them, they become full of scriptkiddies, Bingo, etc). |
This is rude.
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Jamanda
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Ok - maybe sometimes he's a bit rude. But only to you.
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bingo
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| Jamanda wrote: | | Ok - maybe sometimes he's a bit rude. But only to you. |
You see the thing with Jonnyboy was all a bit tongue in cheek, that comment was nasty.
Ouch!
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Barefoot Andrew
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Chop him up and put him in a Bingo stew special.
A.
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Jonnyboy
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| bingo wrote: | | Jamanda wrote: | | Ok - maybe sometimes he's a bit rude. But only to you. |
You see the thing with Jonnyboy was all a bit tongue in cheek, that comment was nasty.
Ouch! |
There were no tongues involved, saucy boy!
Tell you what bingo, I'll hold him and you punch him.
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Calli
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So back to social networking
- if you don't like the term 'friend' that seems to have been coined by the younger users - what term would be accetable for a 'link'?
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bodger
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Friend !
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Barefoot Andrew
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'Fiend' might be more appropriate for many a teenager...
A.
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Calli
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Totally apt Andrew!!!
All the emails flying around asking 'Will you be my Fiend' on such and such
Delicious!
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Nick
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| bingo wrote: | | Nick wrote: | Why don't we have a chat box?
I mean, apart from the obvious (they're crap, I hate them, You hate them, Sean hates them, they become full of scriptkiddies, Bingo, etc). |
This is rude. |
You have my full, undivided, without exception, money back guaranteed, fully warrantied, unreserved apology if you took offence at that.
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jema
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Getting there 
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Fee
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Excellent
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alisjs
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I seem to have inadvertently joined facebook............
Someone off my local freecycle wanted to be my friend and it seemed rude not to....what have I done!!!!!!!!
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Chez
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I joined facebook by accident and now I seem to spend an hour or two each week keeping up with people. I don't use it to MAKE friends though, just to keep up with people I already know.
I draw the line at MySpace though .
I like your interface Jema. Especially the fact that it's purple .
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pookie
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haven't joined facebook yet.......is it better if I don't? 
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Barefoot Andrew
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I will never be joining Facebook, or MySpace, or any such thing!
A.
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Mary-Jane
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| Jamanda wrote: | | Nick wrote: | | Confession. I have signed up to facebook tonight, because I wanted to catch up with a handful of old friends. Sob. |
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Ha, ha...I shall try and find you
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Chez
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I think as Hedgewitch says it's very much how you use it. I have no truck with leet speak and get very grumpy about proper grammar and punctuation
Initially FB made me feel I was interacting with twelve year olds - but I've found my peer group now and I'm enjoying it.
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Gervase
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Facebook has masses of older, sensible people who can spell, use proper grammar and syntax and who tut over yoofs who can't. Its users are certainly a lot more articulate and mature than Bebo and the like. That said, it's just a network, and has it's share of twonks and wuckfits, just like the real world.
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Nick
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And your wife's name there is Mimi Sweethooter.
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Cathryn
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My son wants me to join. This makes me happy but does it mean that he will actually add me to his list of friends...
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hedgewitch
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| ruby wrote: | | My son wants me to join. This makes me happy but does it mean that he will actually add me to his list of friends... |
You hope. Maybe he just wants to make sure he knows where you are and what you're up to in the virtual world.
Don't tell him about Downsizer...
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Marionb
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I just signed up to facebook but am stuck straight away..... the flaming email / password thing.... I put my OE address and now its asking for a web email address.... I think I have a hotmail address but havent a clue what the password is.....
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