| Archive for Downsizer For an ethical approach to consumption |
| Northern_Lad |
That Labour are beneath a joke?All their campaigning appears to be aimed at saying "the Tories are toffs and the Lib Dems are oddballs".Has anyone actually heard a policy from the recently? |
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| Behemoth |
Is that national or in a small part of the cloudy side of the pennines? I don't know much about it but his background does suggest 'toff' if you'd like to use that term or 'out of touch millionaire hobby politician further feathering his nest'. After all, they all lie, you can't trust them and they're only in it for the pension or some such. I think that's the general concesus nowadays. 
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| Behemoth |
Re: That Labour are beneath a joke?
Um, there was this only 6 days ago: http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/uk_politics/7399340.stm Keep up there at the back. 
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| thos |
Or you could think of him as an old-school pro-Corn Law Tory rather than the Whigs who have dominated the Conservative Party recently.
The old Tories are arguably more in keeping with modern thought than are the Whigs. |
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| Northern_Lad |
Based on wide ranging research (well, wider than most government studies) of 3 areas. My area and a friends in the locals, and Crewe and Nantwich. |
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| cab |
Re: That Labour are beneath a joke?
Oddly, that they're keeping their gobs shut on policy might help them, so long as Cameron and his lot keep coming out with such utterly ridiculous tosh. It does of course matter that Labour are beneath a joke. That we now have a credible opposition who are more tragedy than comedy arguably matters as much. |
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| LynneA |
Re: That Labour are beneath a joke?
Partially accurate. To correct it, I'd say the Lib Dems are well meaning but ineffectual and Labour are just plain desperate. |
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| Brownbear |
I find it odd that Labour are attacking the Tory candidate for inheriting his family's wealth (which they made through honest work repairing shoes and not as robber-barons anyway), whilst trying to help their candidate inherit her late mother's seat in the House of Commons. | ||
| Jonnyboy |
Re: That Labour are beneath a joke?
Loads, If you missed the recent announcements just pick a tory one for the last 18 months. |
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| Behemoth |
Can you inherit democratically and does it remove any IHT liability. have we found a tax dodge? |
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| JB |
Not only that but when the papers investigated the Labour campaign they found that labour had been using photos of Timpsons house with it's rolling acres and fields of Llamas in the foreground to illustrate his toffishness whilst cheerfully igoring the fact that the fields and Llamas belonged to someone else and the labour activists dressing up as toffs to try to mock him were privately educated themselves. In fact the more they went on about him the more he sounds like a good chap and just the sort of person you'd want as your local MP. Certainly I'd rather vote for Timpson as a local MP than someone whose main qualification seems to be that her mother once did the job and who lives 200 miles away. |
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| gnome |
my polling booth is broken. i keep ticking Lib Dem - but they are not here yet. | ||
| JB |
Re: Labour's portraying tories as toffs
Noted in the Times this morning. The candidate for Crewe and Nantwich is indeed listed in "Burkes landed gentry". The candidate in question? Tamsin Dunwoody. |
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| snozzer |
And I would like to add, what is wrong with being a "toff"?
We have never and are unlikley ever to live in a social utopia where everone is the same, has the same and earns the same, although I do recall that has been tried and found wanting. New Liabour are missing the point by trying to class this young man as a toff and making themselves look very hateful engaging in such personal attacks, most of which are at best a big stretch of the imagination and at worst damm lies. |
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| Behemoth |
It seems to be a clumsy and crass response to David Cameron and his pack of privilidge trying to portray and position themselves to the electorate as 'everyday guys'. I don't know much about the bloke in crewe of wherever it is, I haven't heard that he's trying portray himself in anyother way than himself. | ||
| snozzer |
Toff or Champagne Socialist, who do you respect more, the person who is what they are, or the ones trying to potray themselves as something else? | ||
| Behemoth |
Generally I trust people who are true to their convictions and themselves, doesn't mean I agree with them, but at least I know where they are coming from. Pantomime politics rarely serves the elctorate well, though at times it can be entertaining | ||
| JB |
What is so offensive about labour's campaign in Crewe & Nantwich is not that they are misrepresenting themselves but that they are trying to misrepresent other people (and by all accounts making a ham fisted job of it and insulting the entire electorate by trying to treat them that way) | ||
| Brownbear |
The public has seen through Labour long ago. They blew it with 'I'm a pretty straight guy'. People went on voting for them because they had a few bob in their pockets and things seemed better than they had been under the last lot. |
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| Andy B |
The sad thing about our political system is that although we are long past the time when labour should go, their is no confidance that the alternatives will be any better. We need a new fresh modern party. | ||
| Northern_Lad |
The Flying Brick is standing for MRL. |
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| thos |
Wasn't that the SDP? |
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| Jonnyboy |
Are labour doing everything they can to keep people from talking about policies?
Probably a good thing, anyone want to consider whether taking out a loan to reduce tax burdens by 2.7bn is inflationary, when police officers don't get a much smaller pay award because it is..... |
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| Behemoth |
Sorry, you appear to be making some sort of noise. Now onto the European championships and the Olympics.... |