Green Rosie
|
That my jam is a bit mouldy?There's a spot of white slightly furry mould on some raspberry jam I found at the back of the fridge. If I scrape it away is the jam still safe to eat?
|
Jamanda
|
Re: That my jam is a bit mouldy? | Green Rosie wrote: | | There's a spot of white slightly furry mould on some raspberry jam I found at the back of the fridge. If I scrape it away is the jam still safe to eat? |
That's what I would do.
|
sally_in_wales
|
I would, subject to it looking and tasting ok, just steer clear f the spoiled bit
|
Stacey
|
Scrape it off, scarf it down.
*or is that a disco song?  *
|
Green Rosie
|
Excellent advice thank you ladies - I hate waste and raspberry is my favourite jam.
But if you never hear from me again ........ 
|
Brownbear
|
| Stacey wrote: | Scrape it off, scarf it down.
*or is that a disco song? * |
There ain't nothin' worse in this whole world than jam turned brown
One, two, three, scrape the mould on down...
|
Stacey
|
| Brownbear wrote: | | Stacey wrote: | Scrape it off, scarf it down.
*or is that a disco song? * |
There ain't nothin' worse in this whole world than jam turned brown
One, two, three, scrape the mould on down... |
DS Disco
I'd be there.
|
Green Rosie
|
From Mouldy Jam to Disco in one small step ...... 
|
Stacey
|
| Green Rosie wrote: | | From Mouldy Jam to Disco in one small step ...... |
Mouldy Ryvita is quicker
|
Green Rosie
|
Nooooo - don't mention ryvita - I love them but you can't get them in France  . Oh well - I'll have to have another pain au chocolat instead won't I  ?
|
Bebo
|
| Brownbear wrote: | | Stacey wrote: | Scrape it off, scarf it down.
*or is that a disco song? * |
There ain't nothin' worse in this whole world than jam turned brown
One, two, three, scrape the mould on down... |
BB, I always find your posts amusing, but now I know that you are a disco diva you are confirmed as my hero.
|
2steps
|
I've taken mould off jam and eaten the rest loads of times with no problems. My nan always did it and was fine, same for cheese
|
Helen_A
|
Yep! Clear off the mould and eat it anyway...
...says the woman who fed the children (and herself!) pancakes with 'rescued' jam for tea this evening 
Helen_A
|
cab
|
The official advice SHOULD be to dump the jam; while the mould can be removed, while it has been growing there it will have been secreting metabolites into the jam, those metabolites may be toxic (long term, or less likely short term) and therefore the whole jar should be considered contaminated.
That should be the official advice. I, however, would scrape the fungus off and eat the jam.
|
Mary-Jane
|
| 2steps wrote: | | I've taken mould off jam and eaten the rest loads of times with no problems. My nan always did it and was fine, same for cheese |
Ditto.
|
dpack
|
| Green Rosie wrote: | | Nooooo - don't mention ryvita - I love them but you can't get them in France . Oh well - I'll have to have another pain au chocolat instead won't I ? |
they are light shall i post some ?
i like em too
|
dpack
|
| cab wrote: | The official advice SHOULD be to dump the jam; while the mould can be removed, while it has been growing there it will have been secreting metabolites into the jam, those metabolites may be toxic (long term, or less likely short term) and therefore the whole jar should be considered contaminated.
That should be the official advice. I, however, would scrape the fungus off and eat the jam. |
is one jam moulds called aspergillus ?
im wary of mouldy jam as it is quite liquid so toxins dissolve away from the colony ,different bugs on cheese and bacon
but taste test should be ok ,maybe
|
cab
|
| dpack wrote: |
is one jam moulds called aspergillus ?
im wary of mouldy jam as it is quite liquid so toxins dissolve away from the colony ,different bugs on cheese and bacon
but taste test should be ok ,maybe |
You do sometimes see strains of Aspergillus on jam, some that look suspiciously like Penicillium, and others too. And you're right to be nervous of Aspergillis, members of that genus produce some of the most exciting and dangerous toxins known to man 
|
dpack
|
me spelling was wrong but the toxicology remains with me
they dont like competition for food
iirc microgrammes per kg as a fatal dose ?
awesome bugs
|
dpack
|
9 mg / kg for one of them
maybe we should revise our views on mouldy jam until further info
|
cab
|
| dpack wrote: |
me spelling was wrong but the toxicology remains with me
they dont like competition for food
iirc microgrammes per kg as a fatal dose ?
awesome bugs |
Spelling looks okay to me, but remember, I am and always have been a micro nerd, so I'll always remember to italicise
(edit: although I see above that my typing let me down above and I also wrote 'Aspergillis')
Some of the toxins produced by species of Aspergillus are even more toxic than that; whats the LD50 for aflatoxin, 0.05 mg/kg in rats? Ochratoxin can't be far behind.
Now that doesn't mean that jam thats got a bit of fluff on is likely to kill you, but it does mean you can't be gung ho with these things!
|
dpack
|
o.05mg/kg
that's a bad boy
most jam is safe but these chaps like jam iirc
|
Green Rosie
|
Well I had the jam (minus the mould) for breakfast this morning - and I'm still here .....
| dpack wrote: | | Green Rosie wrote: | | Nooooo - don't mention ryvita - I love them but you can't get them in France . Oh well - I'll have to have another pain au chocolat instead won't I ? |
they are light shall i post some ?
i like em too |
Thank you so much for that offer dpack - I have friends visiting over the summer with supplies but if I run short later on I shall know who to contact  
|
dpack
|
easy posted if you are stuck
|
GENT
|
| cab wrote: | | dpack wrote: |
iirc microgrammes per kg as a fatal dose ?
awesome bugs |
(edit: although I see above that my typing let me down above and I also wrote 'Aspergillis')
Some of the toxins produced by species of Aspergillus are even more toxic than that; whats the LD50 for aflatoxin, 0.05 mg/kg in rats? Ochratoxin can't be far behind.
|
| dpack wrote: | o.05mg/kg
that's a bad boy
most jam is safe but these chaps like jam iirc |
Wat? 
|
cab
|
| GENT wrote: | | cab wrote: | | dpack wrote: |
iirc microgrammes per kg as a fatal dose ?
awesome bugs |
(edit: although I see above that my typing let me down above and I also wrote 'Aspergillis')
Some of the toxins produced by species of Aspergillus are even more toxic than that; whats the LD50 for aflatoxin, 0.05 mg/kg in rats? Ochratoxin can't be far behind.
|
| dpack wrote: | o.05mg/kg
that's a bad boy
most jam is safe but these chaps like jam iirc |
Wat? |
Generally speaking, fungus likes high carbob, low nitrogen food sources. Jam is great for growing fungus on.
Now every fungus starting out growth on jam is happy, for a while, then it starts to sulk. When it sulks it starts throwing its toys out of the pram; or, in other words, it starts secreting secondary metabolites. In the case of certain Aspergillus fungi that may mean something like aflatoxin, one of the most dangerously poisonous things known to man...
BUT that isn't common. It isn't likely. You'll probably be just fine eating jam after you take the mold off, I always do that, and I've lived to tell the tale (so far). But you should be wary; a tiny spot of fungus on the jam? Yeah, scrape it off, odds are you're safe. Lots of fungus and the top of the jam going runny? Chuck it? My, thats an interesting colour, chuck it. Gee whizz, look, some of those spots are slimy, hold your breath, wrap the jar in a plastic bag, and chuck it.
|
