gillyflower
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The other two RsJust seen an item on the news about the market for recycled paper, metal etc collapsing, leaving councils with unwanted recycled material. Surely now is the time to divert all or some of the money and campaigning away from recycling to the other two Rs - reduce and reuse, which I have always thought to be as important. If the same amount of time and money was spent on forcing supermarkets, suppliers to change or reduce their packaging etc, and educating the general public to accept this and change their ways then the plies of unwanted recycling wouldn't build up. I get the impression that a lot of recycling is just glorified rubbish sorting without changing the problem at source. People round our way are complaining that they can't get 2 weeks worth of rubbish into their new black wheelie bins, so instead of reducing their rubbish they want bigger bins.
Gillyflower
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Treacodactyl
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Sadly it's going to go the other way. There's lots of speculation about tax cuts to stimulate the economy at the moment but they don't want people to save but to spend more on new items. So as cut in VAT might occur or some other measures to encourage consumerism. 
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Cho-ku-ri
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We as Downsizers, should be happy that people sre buying less at the moment. Are we?
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Jamanda
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Are you happy if people buy less pet food or Reki love?
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12Bore
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Morally yes, but I work in specialist retail........ 
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gnome
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Gillyflower is right - the motto Reduce, Re-use. Recycle is meant in that order - with reduction of waste coming first and recycling being the last resort (ideally).
Recycling requires a great deal of resources and manpower - in some cases more than a raw product. the emphasis on Recycling is a shortsighted conjuring trick, designed to make us believe that local authorities are doing something positive so we dont have to worry or take responsibility.
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mochyn
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I went shopping in Oswestry yesterday and was very pleasantly surprised to find that I wasn't offered a single plastic carrier!
Sadly I'd forgotten my cloth bags so ended up with a handbag stuffed full of things.
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Helen M
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there is one large supermarket chain who will reward you for placing a delivery order without bags. they bring it straight in in trays wait whitle you empty said trays and take them away again. they also reward you for using the same bags over again and not using new ones....and they do a good line in reuseable cloth bags. a small concession from such a huge chain but a cancession none the less
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Mrs Fiddlesticks
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I've always felt very strongly that its about Reduce and Reuse first ( but our target led government local and national can't measure that can they and there is no money in it for them or their contractors)
Why have the hassle of sorting your recycling etc when the best thing is to avoid it in the first place!
Media are no better in the silly stories about folk needing bigger bins due to fortnightly collections rather than weekly. Where is the information about how to reduce your rubbish?
I can't understand why no one else can see such an obvious thing!
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JB
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Hasn't this long been the case though that coucils are left with an excess of recyclables that they can't recycle so a fair chunk of what you put in the recyc bins ends up in landfill anyway?
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dpack
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try this for size
this morning was recyce day here in york (bi weekly )
the doorstep collection is well thought out ?
each house can put one bag of glass,one of plastic and steel/ali cans ,one paper/card
part bags count as bags ,
they will only take one of each so the system cant deal with that different houses have different proportions of stuff or that some dont bother , those that do cant get it collected if say they have plenty of glass but few tins or plastic trays
if it is sorted and bagged surely it makes sense to take what each house has
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cab
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Take a glass bottle, grind it up, melt it, make another bottle.
It cannot just be me who thinks thats barking? Its a bottle already, whatever would be wrong with deposits and reusing the bottle?
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Slim
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| Helen M wrote: | | there is one large supermarket chain who will reward you for placing a delivery order without bags. they bring it straight in in trays wait whitle you empty said trays and take them away again. they also reward you for using the same bags over again and not using new ones....and they do a good line in reuseable cloth bags. a small concession from such a huge chain but a cancession none the less |
just to be a teensy bit cynical, it is saving the market the cost of buying all those bags and giving them out for free.
(edited to say: not that that's a bad thing!)
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