| Archive for Downsizer For an ethical approach to consumption |
| Lloyd |
Timber for Sale!Timber....Ash, Oak, Hazel, Willow, Chestnut, Elm, just let me know. If you want it in planks, that can be arranged at small cost.Lloyd |
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| jema |
Re: Timber for Sale!
i'm curious on price, I got madly into woodworking a couple of years back, only to find I could not afford the wood  Have built quite a bit with cheap MDF, but that was not what I wanted 
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| Lloyd |
PM me with details of type of wood and quantity required for price, as well as delivery dislance, etc from West Midlands. | ||
| jema |
I'm not expert enough to know  What with all the standards of finish etc. I have not even got a thicknesser
When I looked into it a couple of years ago, I got as far as realising that anywhere I could find to buy wood from, would mean that anything I built, I could get in solid wood from Ikea at similar cost
My plan had been to see if I could have a bit of fun craft wise and maybe make a few quid by selling stuff. When I realised just how hard this would be given the cost of real wood I gave up looking and bought a bulk load of MDF 
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| Lloyd |
Well I have a mate who has a mobile sawmill so I'll have a chat with him, and see what we can do, for example with Beech, or Elm for really smooth pale surfaces. If you can borrow a trailer to collect it, then season it back at your place after planking it here, it will cost a fraction of the cost from a timber merchant for the same product. | ||
| Treacodactyl |
Do you need any form of approval before felling trees? When I've looked at getting some woodland the area of felling licences seems a bit of a minefield. | ||
| Lloyd |
Felling licenses from the Forrestry Commission only apply to batches in excess of three cubic yards, and don't applt to coppice in any case. | ||
| jema |
Thanks for the offer, but I don't want to lead you up the garden path here. I am curious on price, but my ambitions in this area were a couple of years back, when I was looking for some constructive things to do. I am now up to my ears on other constructive projects like downsizer and I'm not sure woodworking in a big way fits in any more 
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| sean |
Probably still worth Madman finding out, other potential customers may well want to know. | ||
| tahir |
Definitely, Rob's done a bit of trade here, I don't see why MM can't | ||
| Treacodactyl |
Is it 3 cubic yards per acre per year? Is there a maximum size when coppice becomes timber and needs a licence? What sort of width plank can you get out of a coppiced tree? Sorry I have so many questions but I tired to look into this a while back and there seemed to be so many rules stopping someone form looking after a few acres of woodland. We also went to a wood fair a while back and saw a range of portable saw mills in action. They were very good and could plank to a very small tolerance. Depending on what you are going to make you may not need to use a thicknesser. |
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| mochyn |
I think you're just the man I need, Lloyd (!) Can your mate's saw mill get into awkward places? We have a large Ash down and would like to plank it up. Only problem is its location: at the end of a strange little track. Any ideas? | ||
| Lloyd |
TD, it's 3 cubic metres per annum irrespective of acreage, although a license is easy enough to come by, apparently. Width of plank?...If you coppice an Oak with a four or five foot diameter, you can have some pretty big planks!
It's really about coppicing for vigorous regrowth (what the Government want), as opposed to felling leading to loss of root and stool, which they don't want. Mochyn, the transportable sawmill is about three feet wide, 12 feet long, five foot high, trailer mounted. He may be a mate, but he is in business for himself, so will charge. If you want his details, PM me and I'll let you know it all. Martin, shame, as It would be nice if a Downsizer was the first recipient of my renewable wood supply! Sean, I'll check it all out and post in a week or two, prices for different types, cuts, and so on, for my timber. |
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| Treacodactyl |
What's the difference? Do you cut differently or just look after the stools? I thought a 5 foot wide oak couldn't be coppiced? |
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| Lloyd |
Coppicing is about cutting at a height above ground (which varies according to species ), which prompts the tree to throw out new growth. You can do this by pollarding, such as with mature oak, elm, etc, by cutting at the base, as with willow or hazel, (willow can be done a few inches up), or by layering (bend it right over, pag it into the ground and wait for a new root to form at the pegged end, with poles rising along the length as well. | ||
| Lloyd |
Felling is about killing the tree. | ||
| jema |
You might tempt me yet. But since giving up on real wood I made dozens of bits for the house out of the MDF, which does leave me struggling to think of things to do with the real deal. |
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| Lloyd |
Once I get time to start processing the wood properly, I'll do an article, including the course I'm doing at the Green Wood Centre. No time at the mo. Took till 2pm today to dig out the Land Rover, then till 6 to lay a bridge, with the contractors. Managed to coppice three hazel stools though, for keeping dogs and cat out of veg patch, and dogs apart from chickens! | ||
| mochyn |
I think you need to coome over here to do a quick bit of consultancy for me Lloyd. I'm also interested in some wood to build a porch, so we clearly need to talk, perhaps at the Farmers' Market. And I'll have to get the micro-meet off the ground! | ||
| Lloyd |
 I have misled you into thinking that I have useful knowledge of tree matters. I'm actually a complete beginner, and my advice or opinion would have little value. Maybe in a few years!
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| mochyn |
OK I'll sort you out on Friday 
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| Lloyd |
Okay
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| Neil |
Ash for hurling sticksHelloim looking for some ash preferably ash butts so that i can make hurling sticks. If so could u email prices or pass on information on where to get these. Many thanks irishrebel66@hotmail.com |
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| Lloyd |
I've no idea what a hurling stick is, so please give me a brief description, and I'm sure I can help. How much do you want, where do you want them sent, etc?....If you sign up to downsizer, then we can send private messages, exchange email addresses, phone numbers etc. I'm near Telford in Shropshire. | ||
| mochyn |
It's a bit like a hockey stick that's been run over by a steamroller! | ||
| Firewyre |
Ok, I apologise for stealth-posting and running, however...
MM, you sound like you have a little bit of forest for your trees 
I've recently got into bushcraft (see www.bushcraftuk.co.uk) and one of the things we despair of is places to camp and to practice our skills. Is there any chance that you (or others with a bit of wooded land) would be interested in letting people (1/2 at a time) on a case by case basis, camp for a night or so? You could probably charge a little for the priveledge, especially if you allowed small (very carefully managed) fires for cooking. Ideally we'd like a wooded space for a night or so, the larger the better, where we could put up a hammock/tent, have a small fire for cooking, firewood to collect, wild-plants to look at and possibly forage etc. We wouldn't need loos, electricity or anything else like that - we just want a wood to camp in - Ray Meyers style
Please check the website and the forums in particular for an idea of the kind of people who'd be interested in this as a service. Otherwise, please contact me at Bog-fiend AT minging DOT co DOT uk if you (or others with wooded land) would be interested. (I'm not in charge of the bushcraft site, but I am part of the forum - I don't speak for them all. They're much wiser than I am  )
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| Lloyd |
I'll need to give this some consideration, and will email you when I've reached a decision
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| Treacodactyl |
Hi Firewyre,
If you register then people can PM you which may be safer than giving out email addresses, although it's well disguised. Good luck with your search. |
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| Firewyre |
Thank you both;
MM, thank you for considering it, I appreciate it, and Treacodactyl, thanks for the encouragement.
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| mochyn |
Madman: the new avatar is even more scary than the old one! Is it fit for general transmissiom?
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| mochyn |
You've changed it again, you cad! That's not at all scary. | ||
| Lloyd |
The last one went up in a moment of foolishness after I got bored with the chickens eye. Wouldn't want to appear scary!
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| Lloyd |
Timber still just as available though!
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