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JB

Using this as a pruning ladder

this

The question is when they refer to a safe working height of 4.18m is that simply the highest step they recommend standing on in which case is is easily tall enough for what I want or is it a largely arbitrary figure

(and yes I know I could get a dedicated pruning ladder or use one of those long handled whatsits but this should also let me get up to the gutters should I need to (and hiring one of these things will cost me about £60 by the time they deliver and collect so it may be worth buying))

Might it be prone to sinking once I try it under the trees rather than around the house?
sean

I *think* it'll be the height of the second or third rung down (there are rules about these things but I can't remember what they are). I'm pretty sure it would sink into the ground. You could put boards under the feet though.
RichardW

I think your not supposed to work higher than the top of the ladder so feet will be 3 or 4 rungs down.

Dont think it will reach your gutters safely either. With a max height of 5.85m. I am guessing but each level of the house will be about 2.6m plus the losses for having the bottom 1 in 4 out & it will be to low to be at a working height for the gutters. Would be ok for painting the walls perhaps.

What about this one

http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/12-Rung-Combi-Multi-Purpose-Free-Standing-Alum-Ladder_W0QQitemZ230218251987QQihZ013QQcategoryZ112567QQssPageNameZWDVWQQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem

More money but much bigger better features as well.

Or this one
http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/9-Rung-Combi-Multi-Purpose-Free-Standing-Alum-Ladder_W0QQitemZ330209670109QQihZ014QQcategoryZ112567QQssPageNameZWDVWQQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem

Not as big but bigger than yours.

Or one of these with a standard ladder.

http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/TURN-LADDERS-INTO-FREESTANDING-PLATFORM-LADDERBRACE447_W0QQitemZ230217947806QQihZ013QQcategoryZ112567QQssPageNameZWDVWQQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem



Justme
dougal

Re: Using this as a pruning ladder

JB wrote:
this

The question is when they refer to a safe working height of 4.18m
is that simply the highest step they recommend standing on
in which case is is easily tall enough for what I want or is it a largely
arbitrary figure
...
Might it be prone to sinking once I try it under the trees rather than around the house?

No way does "safe working height" equate to the height of your *feet*.

That ladder is clearly not intended for use on soft ground without
some modification/accessorisation.
JB

Justme wrote:
... plus the losses for having the bottom 1 in 4 out


1 in 4 only equates to a loss of about 3% in working height so that's not really an issue.

Justme wrote:
Or this one
shorter link

Not as big but bigger than yours.


Err. ... it's the same ladder! and more expensive!! (screwfix have the wrong photo, they show the six rung not the nine rung ladder and with delivery those are £140 from screwfix and £150 from ebay).

The freestanding ladder conversion is a reasonable idea but that definitely would sink what would do the job is something like that but with a wide foot or one of those combi ladders with a foot that would go under it to spread the load but not just a board or the ladder would skate off that in a second.
Contadino

Re: Using this as a pruning ladder

JB wrote:
The question is when they refer to a safe working height of 4.18m is that simply the highest step they recommend standing on in which case is is easily tall enough for what I want or is it a largely arbitrary figure


Who are 'they'? Is that a HSE thing, or an EU thing? I ask because I use a 6m ladder for pruning our olive trees.

I also have one of these 3-sectional (5m max) ladders and it has a wide bar at the bottom to increase stability on soft ground. It works pretty well when working on the cherry trees.
dougal

Re: Using this as a pruning ladder

Contadino wrote:
JB wrote:
this

The question is when they refer to a safe working height of 4.18m is that simply the highest step they recommend standing on in which case is is easily tall enough for what I want or is it a largely arbitrary figure


Who are 'they'? Is that a HSE thing, or an EU thing? ...

Its a Screwfix spec of that specific ladder.
See JB's link.
dougal

Re: Using this as a pruning ladder

dougal wrote:
...
That ladder is clearly not intended for use on soft ground without
some modification/accessorisation.


All manner of ladder stabilisers/special feet/ etc
http://www.laddersafetysupplies.co.uk/
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