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Flamin'Panda

VERY OVERGROWN LAND

We have a large piece of very overgrown land, about 30 years worth. Intermingled with everything are some trees that I would like to keep, but there is also a lot of bamboo (not cane). Any ideas would be helpful. If we weren't going to be away next winter I would buy a goat or a pig. Would seriously like to get it done asap... Question
Mistress Rose

I would suggest trying to get a brushcutter (heavy duty strimmer with cutting head rather than string) in there to see what there is to start with. You can leave the trees undamaged, and once you have cut the top off the rest of it, you might find it is a lot less bad than you think. After that, perhaps a rotovator?
Flamin'Panda

Yup, I think a strimmer (not string type) is the way to go.... My first thought was lots of petrol and a match... but I'm still growing my hair back after the last time! The only problem with the mechanical route is the effort, not that I adverse to it, but wow, there is a lot of growth there. Please keep the ideas coming...
Hairyloon

My first thought was lots of petrol and a match...

Very bad idea. If you want to go that route, then a flamethrower is the way forward.
Where are you based? I do have one...
Nick

If it's seriously fenced, short term pig loan might help.
woodsprite

Or if youre in the Azores and having to go away, i'll be your pigherd! ;0)
Treacodactyl

I'm not sure what the bamboo is you're referring to but assuming it's a creeping plant that grows from pieces of root/rhizome I would definitely not rotavate as you'll just chop up the roots into thousands of new cuttings.

Digging it out is going to be the only way unless you resort to lots of weed killer use. I had a large overgrown end of a garden with nettles, brambles and other deep rooted weeds. Digging them out with as much roots as possible was very successful, if hard work, but then I only needed to do it once.
dpack

pandas?
Flamin'Panda

Wow, thanks for all of that, so all I need now is a Panda who can operate a flame thrower.... has anyone got one? Yupthe land is in the Azores, but you would have to bring a tent as we don't have a house on it yet and are still living on our boat..... Please keep the ideas coming...
mousjoos

Wow, thanks for all of that, so all I need now is a Panda who can operate a flame thrower.... has anyone got one? Yupthe land is in the Azores, but you would have to bring a tent as we don't have a house on it yet and are still living on our boat..... Please keep the ideas coming...


The panda/flame thrower combo on a boat sounds hazardous, & fraught with potential difficulties

get pigs..they have terrific "sea-legs" & look quite dashing in a life jacket
Finsky

I would get friendly with one of the neighbours who would like to make use of some free foraging ground for their pigs.
Make 'contract' for a certain time scale and the pigs will eat their way through the undergrowth and fertilize the land same time Very Happy
Before they set their feet to the area...slash/hack down all the unwanted growth leaving those that you want to keep upright.
Flamin'Panda

Now, we're just being silly, of course I wouldn't let the panda play with the flame thrower on the boat... As for pigs and lifejackets, um, let me see, I'm sure that I have a spare one just the right size... vegplot

Flamin'Panda

On a more serious note, thank you for all your ideas, do please keep them coming. The land is not fenced, but I could put in an electric fence. My current thought (panda aside) is a pig, then asking a neighbour to look after it whilst away..... the great thing about pigs, unlike mechanical clearers is that I can eat it at the end... Twisted Evil Finsky


Laughing ...picture worth of more than thousand words... Laughing
Flamin'Panda

If I were a bamboo shoot, I would now be very scared! Shocked Flamin'Panda

Is a flame throwing panda environmentally acceptable? Also has the panda risk assessed what he is doing? Nick

Pandas are an evolutionary dead end. They refuse to breed, and only eat one specific, rare, not very nutritious grass. They are going to die out, regardless.

So, we should use them however we can. Have him flame your land, then enjoy a celebratory feast, when the work is done.
Mr O

Roundup, is the only answer, if you can't do the pig thing. Flamin'Panda

Can anyone tell me, what is the carbon foot print of a flame throwing panda? Hairyloon

Wow, thanks for all of that, so all I need now is a Panda who can operate a flame thrower.... has anyone got one?
I could come in disguise...
Pilsbury

Can anyone tell me, what is the carbon foot print of a flame throwing panda? if there is a slip up all the flamethrowing pandas footpronts will be carbon... dpack

Laughing Flamin'Panda

Before searching ebay for a flame throwing panda, can anyone tell me: How do I deal with the immigration status? After all I don't want to be employing an illegal immigrant. NorthernMonkeyGirl

I'm sure there's a specialist work visa Wink Flamin'Panda

Yes there probably is, but it will be 900 pages long, and then have to be filled out in triplicate, faxed off to various departments, then returned to me for some minor spelling error... think I'll just smuggle him in and hope no one notices... But would his flame thrower be hold or hand luggage, oh this is turning out to be so complicated, I'm beginning to prefer the idea of a pig in a lifejacket... dpack

pigs are probably a good option for rooting and eating the rhizomes ,from what i know of the slash/burn/dig/poison(ugh) attempts at removing the stuff it is very hard work and a long process. onemanband

Mini-digger / JCB for a day, level plot, pull out any stumps, push it into big pile to rot down or burn. Follow up with other methods allready suggested. Flamin'Panda

Ok guys, the flame throwing panda is a non starter I'm sorry to say. At the moment we are looking into fencing for the pig, a neighbour (yes we are currently still living on our boat but have a small (very small 30mts) rented cottage on another island) has fenced his pig in with old pallets. Does anyone have any pig fencing ideas, cheap is what we are after as it isn't going to be a permanent fence. Also now having seriously thought about getting a pig, we have started to look into what type of pig, (bearing in mind where we live the choice might be limited). Big snouted things are what we have come up with, any ideas please.... Hairyloon

Does anyone have any pig fencing ideas...
Virtual fences.
Fit the pigs with electronic collars that give an audio warning if the animal starts to move out of bounds, followed by an electric shock if they continue.
alison

For a start you will need at least 2,

Pigs will spot a weakness, so safe is better than cheap and cheerful.
Tavascarow

Ok guys, the flame throwing panda is a non starter I'm sorry to say. At the moment we are looking into fencing for the pig, a neighbour (yes we are currently still living on our boat but have a small (very small 30mts) rented cottage on another island) has fenced his pig in with old pallets. Does anyone have any pig fencing ideas, cheap is what we are after as it isn't going to be a permanent fence. Also now having seriously thought about getting a pig, we have started to look into what type of pig, (bearing in mind where we live the choice might be limited). Big snouted things are what we have come up with, any ideas please....

I use an electric fence attached to two runs of galvanised nine strand fencing wire. I top it with a third strand of the nylon electric tape, but that is so I see it in the dark & don't trip over it.
You say you are going to be away next winter but between now & then you could raise two batches of wearers to pork weight or decent gilts to an age where another pig farmer would be happy to purchase them for breeding.
difficult bit is not giving them names & becoming too attached.
dpack

a google hunt found this

Wot Nick said.

so probably the local ones would be good for the job and tasty
Flamin'Panda

dpack, many thanks for that... I thought a pig was a pig, I think I might have to start interviewing these piggly pigs just to make sure I get the right one. Seriously, I am very grateful for all the input everyone has given, the flame throwing panda, though a good idea initially has now been put to one side. It really does seem a pig is the way to go, then 'deal' with it in november.... so I will be putting up a new post regarding preserving meat... but please keep the ideas coming... Very Happy Nick

If you don't work out how to shorten links, I will hunt you down and kill you. Flamin'Panda

sorry...... Embarassed Nick

sorry...... Embarassed

Not you. Smile

dpack. He knows better, much better. And he knows where he lives. And that I can run faster than him. Wink
sean



dpack. He knows better, much better. And he knows where he lives. And that I can run faster than him. Wink


Good that he knows where he lives though, even if he insists on using the longest links on the planet.
DorsetScott

If you don't work out how to shorten links, I will hunt you down and kill you.

Favourite post of the year so far Laughing
Flamin'Panda

Oh crickey, I'll apologise for anything... sorry... Laughing Flamin'Panda



Forgot to mention when talking about the amount of bamboo to be removed, apart from the panda removal method, we have been trying to learn tomake bamboo furniture over the past few months... with varying degrees of success, if it didn't take so long there could be money to be made. Smile
lorrayne

Please excuse my hijacking you original post as I wondered where in the Azores you were/are to be based?
L
dpack

If you don't work out how to shorten links, I will hunt you down and kill you.


Laughing
Flamin'Panda

Please excuse my hijacking you original post as I wondered where in the Azores you were/are to be based?

Hi, sorry, our rented cottage (shack, cold, damp, mouldy, draughty, horrible), is on Flores, our land is on Faial. tahir



dpack. He knows better, much better. And he knows where he lives. And that I can run faster than him. Wink


Good that he knows where he lives though, even if he insists on using the longest links on the planet.

Surely a typo that Nick can run faster than him too, dpack's carrying a lot less meat pies than our Nick...
sean

He's got a gammy knee though. Nick

He's got a gammy knee though.

This. I pick my victims carefully.
tahir

Ash didn't realise get healed soon dpack, dpack

tis a long term thing and if you show em a weakness you have a good idea where they will approach Laughing

i did get linky chi at one time but lost it again so i suppose nick n me doing "running man" will give everyone a laugh

y'd better borrow an mp5 cos i aint got one at the mo Laughing Laughing Laughing
Flamin'Panda

Just worked it out, how to get rid of the vegetation, have a major storm, it does the work for you! dpack

Laughing Flamin'Panda

Finally a decision has been made (subject to change of course!), no piggy, just hard work. A bush cutter and bill hook, and bonfire. Hope to get started on it in a couple of weeks when we get back over there. Will have to put the panda costume back in the box for some other occasion, but as my lighter has just run out the flame thrower could come in handy. Very Happy
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