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wanted: a good night's sleep
she's awake at midnight and giggling at me again.
anyone offering a miricle sure for awake baba at midnight that dosen't involve medication winds my undying affection
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gil
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I suppose at least she's not crying.... which would be worse I guess.
Read aloud to her from the most boring book you have ? Telephone directory ?
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Re: wanted: a good night's sleep | toggle wrote: |
anyone offering a miricle sure for awake baba at midnight that dosen't involve medication winds my undying affection |
Gin?
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mihto
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Give in and enjoy her. This is when they are at their sweetest. Deep down they probably know that their life is hanging in a thin thread unless they are so wonderful that parentss just cannot be mean and put them back in bed.
You can try to sing a lullaby? At least she will appreciate music even more when she grows up 
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Re: wanted: a good night's sleep | Bebo wrote: | | toggle wrote: |
anyone offering a miricle sure for awake baba at midnight that dosen't involve medication winds my undying affection |
Gin? |
i'll have a large one.
actually, ther'es not much booze in the house unless i open bottles of wime and my father tends to strop if i drink too much if thatr. I may have to get out the cooking sherry again
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Re: wanted: a good night's sleep | toggle wrote: | | Bebo wrote: | | toggle wrote: |
anyone offering a miricle sure for awake baba at midnight that dosen't involve medication winds my undying affection |
Gin? |
i'll have a large one.
actually, ther'es not much booze in the house unless i open bottles of wime and my father tends to strop if i drink too much if thatr. I may have to get out the cooking sherry again |
I was thinking for the baby rather than you 
A rub on the gums with whisky when I was teething never did me any harm (apart from I don't really like whisky as an adult).
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mihto
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Actually, Toggle, we may be flippant but we all feel for you. Those of us with children remember the total exhaustion and the feeling that we would never be rested again. Alas there is no other way than getting through it. One day you will have a memory only of a baby full of charm and smiles. Then you will wonder what she is up to now and when she will come home. Now at least you know where she is 
I hope you all settle down soon and that you can have a nap tomorrow as well.
Best of luck!
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| mihto wrote: | Actually, Toggle, we may be flippant but we all feel for you. Those of us with children remember the total exhaustion and the feeling that we would never be rested again. Alas there is no other way than getting through it. One day you will have a memory only of a baby full of charm and smiles. Then you will wonder what she is up to now and when she will come home. Now at least you know where she is
I hope you all settle down soon and that you can have a nap tomorrow as well.
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flippant works, then i get to giggle as well 
if i wanted tea and sympathy there are other places i could go to whine that weren't infested with rampant pisstakers 
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Ecokid was always a bad sleeper. I used to throw my nightshirt in with him so he thought I was still there.
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Chez
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Sorry, Toggle, I feel your pain, too. E is still feeding every three or four hours and we're both like Zombies. Although at least she does go to sleep in between ...
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AnnaD
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I'll swap you the uncomfortable pregnant belly for the giggling baby any time
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Chez
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You say that NOW, Anna  . How long have you got to go, now?
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AnnaD
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| Chez wrote: | | You say that NOW, Anna . How long have you got to go, now? |
I only have two weeks now! The midwife came round yesterday with the gas and air and the home birth box, so we are all prepared
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mihto
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What made you chose homebirth?
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| mihto wrote: | | What made you chose homebirth? |
i am so jelous. i wanted home births for my two but couldn't due to "complications" or bonky blood as i call it.
as it happens luke was a deffinate no go for the home birth but abbie could have been 
anyway all the best and i look forward to all the details (well some anyway) and lovely pictures. i love babies, hate kids though have no idea why i have two and work with many
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Chez
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The gas and air did nothing for me first time round but last time it was *fantastic* . Are you getting much rest, or is it all horribly uncomfortable all the time now?
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Just enjoy. Before you know it you'll have a stroppy teenager and then an empty nest - and you'll wonder where the time went.
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Chez
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Speaking personally, the time is currently being filled with regurgitaged pureed carrot and trying to prevent one hitting the other with Thomas the Tank Engine, The Omnibus Edition
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| Chez wrote: | | Speaking personally, the time is currently being filled with regurgitaged pureed carrot and trying to prevent one hitting the other with Thomas the Tank Engine, The Omnibus Edition |
Pictures?
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Yep feeling the sleepless here too 
No wonder the cia use sleep deprivation as an interrogation technique.
Once I *am* awake in the wee small hours, I've kind of come to look at it as 'extra' time that I wouldn't otherwise have had if that makes sense. Weirdly, forcing myself to feel positive about the extra time has removed that feeling of 'don't they grow up so fast' as well.
That probably makes no sense.
I blame the sleep deprivation
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| Quote: | Just enjoy. Before you know it you'll have a stroppy teenager and then an empty nest - and you'll wonder where the time went.
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Too true.
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| otatop wrote: | | Just enjoy. Before you know it you'll have a stroppy teenager and then an empty nest - and you'll wonder where the time went. |
Aye. I'm at the stroppy teenager stage and already looking at piccies of Jack as a fat, happy baby thinking "Surely that was only yesterday?"
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| mihto wrote: | | What made you chose homebirth? |
I wasn't originally going to, but then I read 'Birthing From Within' which really changed my mind. Also, having done much reading it seems there is less likely to be a chance of complications. But I think the main thing is the fact that labour will go more smoothly as I won't have the stress of transferring to hospital. I did worry about more chance of things going wrong, but apparently it makes no difference as long as you're no more than 30 minutes away from hospital.
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| Chez wrote: | | The gas and air did nothing for me first time round but last time it was *fantastic* . Are you getting much rest, or is it all horribly uncomfortable all the time now? |
It is gettiung very uncomfortable, especially since she's changed to head down position. I think she was just headbutting my bladder there, ouch!
With a bit of luck the gas and air will help, and I also have a TENS machine. And of course there will be photos once I've had her
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I think my issue with L was that I was started on the gas and air too late. With E, I was on it from the minute we got to the birth centre and it was brilliant. I think one of the things it does is help you regulate your breathing - but it's *such* a nice spacey feeling, too! (Do I sound too keen? ).
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I know women in many countries and their birthing experiences vary a lot. Foreign friends who gave birth in Norway back in the 70ies(when I had my babies) agreed that it was a no-nonsense, no luxury, safe and sometimes funny experience. No elaborate menu when lying in, no single rooms, hardly any epidurals, plenty of nitroxic gas to relieve tension, mostly natural births, able midwives, hardly any doctor in sight. Very low level of problems. We had 5-6 days of hospitalisation in 4-bed rooms with totally strange women. Looking back these were among the nicest, funniest, most tearful and partly heartbreaking days of my life. I cherish those memories very much.
The best thing with homebirths is the low level of infection risk for you as well as the baby. A birth is after all a very natural event and no big deal. A good midwife is essential, though. As long as you are not in a risk group because of age or previous known diesease you are in for the best, or at least most earthshattering, experience in your life.
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AnnaD
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Thanks for the lovely comment Mihto, that makes me look forward to it even more!
Sorry Chez for hijacking the thread!
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Chez
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I know it sounds bonkers, but I really enjoyed my labour experience with Nenna, when it finally kicked off - I would definitely do it again on the strength of it. It was the nine months of hell beforehand and the shennanigins afterwards that slayed me .
We had a lovely, lovely midwife and basically she left me and Arvo to get on with it for most of the time - she popped in every couple of hours with tea and biscuits . I hope it goes smoothly for you, Anna - and we will *definitely* hold you to those photos!
*slinks away before Mihto reminds me that I still haven't posted updates of E*
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Chez
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Not my thread, Toggles. I've hijacked it, too .
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| Chez wrote: | | Not my thread, Toggles. I've hijacked it, too . |
The name of the thread is "Wanted: a good night's sleep". I'm absolutely certain that Toggles agrees that expecting babies, caring for babies, breastfeeding and generally trying not to go around the bend while handling babies morning, noon and night (as well as all the hours in between) is relevant to the thread.
Chez, I see you . You promised! We should actually have a Picture of Baby - thread where we all could post pics of the little ones. They would be easier to find later, and what fun to go back after several years and compare those sweeties with the pimply teens of today!
Mods, are you listening?
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Chez
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All my photos are on my phone and I've lost the USB cable and can't get it to talk to my computer by bluetooth ... I have tried, honestly. I will have a proper look for the cable tomorrow ....
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You're welcome to start a baby photos thread. Possibly not in Trading Post though. And I think you should warn people if it contains images of erikht.
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Chez
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Was there any more thought about having a 'family stuff' section? I think it was Rob R who brought it up a while back.
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| sean wrote: | | You're welcome to start a baby photos thread. Possibly not in Trading Post though. And I think you should warn people if it contains images of erikht. |
No, not on the trading post, for obvious reasons.
Sean, I'm generally not a cruel person. I also would love to see Erikht again.
Posting pics of The Redheaded Food Monster should be OK. He is only 7 weeks and too young to object. First need to figure out the technical bit, though.
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Errm....I think that things like baby photos probably fit quite happily in Chat. We should probably be more active about moving threads sometimes too. Not this one particularly, just making sure that things about wills go in 'Finance and Property' and so on.
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Chez
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I think that you should digitize several photos of a baby-Erikht and keep them in reserve as a guarantee of good behaviour!
Edit: That was to Mihto, not Sean, obviously.
Sean - yes, I think they will. I wasn't pushing for it, just aimlessly enquiring.
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The best baby photos I have of my youngest son were taken between 11.00 pm & 1.00 am . He used to come 'alive' then, be full of giggles and fun.....beware he is now 21 and is at his best between 11.00 and 3.00, eager for conversation when all I want to do is sleep.
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| Chez wrote: | | Was there any more thought about having a 'family stuff' section? I think it was Rob R who brought it up a while back. |
That's actually a really good idea
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| sean wrote: | | You're welcome to start a baby photos thread. Possibly not in Trading Post though. And I think you should warn people if it contains images of erikht. |
don't think i attached photos when i offered to sell the lass.
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| toggle wrote: |
don't think i attached photos when i offered to sell the lass. |
No. We are still waiting for the photos.
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| mihto wrote: | | Mods, are you listening? |
Fine by me, as long as no-one tells my mother! In which case I'll modding in self defence!
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still waiting for that sleep
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AnnaD
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| toggle wrote: | | still waiting for that sleep |
I hope you find it soon!
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For babies an oil burner safely out of the way with a little lavender oil in it sometimes works. For an older child chamomile tea, some parents also say that it calms colic. Chamomile and lavender in the bath before bed can also help.
Sound in the bedroom can also help, rain, whale song, i know one young lad who's parents recorded traffic noises and he just dropped right off and slept through.
I also think the room they are sleeping in has a lot to do with it, try not to make it too stimulating, same goes for bedding.
* be careful with shop bought herbal teas, there have been some nasty incidents of them containing things other than the herb, better to make your own *
OOh.. i forgot, warm milk sometimes works a treat.
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I have to admit I actually look back really fondly on the tiny baby, sleep deprived stage, but probably only because it's highly unlikely I'll ever do it over again.
I don't s'pose you've tried a baby hammock? I'm a total advocate, and should get commission from amby from the amount of people I sing it's praises too. The sheer wonder of poking your foot out of bed, giving it a gentle nudge to set it rocking and thereby neatly avoiding getting out in the cold unless totally necessary rendered it wonderful to my mind
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| Angel wrote: |
OOh.. i forgot, warm milk sometimes works a treat. |
she has warm milk on tap
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| Effie wrote: | | I don't s'pose you've tried a baby hammock? I'm a total advocate, and should get commission from amby from the amount of people I sing it's praises too. |
I saw these a while back, on eBay I think, and I seriously considered getting one, partly because of the semi reclining position they seem to sleep in. I didn't because she went in to hospital again and everything sort of got put on hold. She is four months now and we have put her in a cot in another room, but it did look like a wonderful idea.
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Wychwood jnr went thru a phase at about 10ths I did as he did, when he was awake I did bits and bobs, and I slept when he did. Worked for me
I was a stay home mum tho. Don't think it'd work if you're a working mum
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| Chez wrote: | | Effie wrote: | | I don't s'pose you've tried a baby hammock? I'm a total advocate, and should get commission from amby from the amount of people I sing it's praises too. |
I saw these a while back, on eBay I think, and I seriously considered getting one, partly because of the semi reclining position they seem to sleep in. I didn't because she went in to hospital again and everything sort of got put on hold. She is four months now and we have put her in a cot in another room, but it did look like a wonderful idea. |
ooh we do those at home! We tend to have rather high beds and mums traditionally tie a large rectangular piece of printed fabric called a leso onto the bed frame under the mattress to form a sort of hammock, between the planky bits. Much cheaper than a baby hammock!
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| Minamoo wrote: |
ooh we do those at home! We tend to have rather high beds and mums traditionally tie a large rectangular piece of printed fabric called a leso onto the bed frame under the mattress to form a sort of hammock, between the planky bits. Much cheaper than a baby hammock! |
Minamoo, where is "home"? What more can you tell about the leso?
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i might hve missed something vital between page 1 and page 4 but i cant be arsed to read..im doing directions for the holiday drive tomorrow and thought i would check in.
I didnt realise Sam had a sleep problem untill my neighbour knocke don the door one day and handed me a bottle of infacol and took james to the park!
It worked within 2 hours. Id give him a squirt before feeding and he slept all night after that! ( untill he turned three and stopped sleeping that is!)
he was properly diagosed witha sleep disorder at 4 so his 4 hour sleeps are normal to us now, infact i sleep right through hime getting up and pottering about!
It will get better with the sleep thing toggle, but it always seems like its miles away. do daytime naps and done feel too ashamed to ask for family to occupy the older ones.
im off to bed now as i can hear mr.sleepy upstairs already!
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My home birth experience was amazing, so was the gas & air its the only time you get offered it so make the most of it! My birth plan basically read DO NOT TOUCH ME! The midwife was called when I realised I really wanted the G & A, baby arrived about 20 mins later! 2 hours after giving birth I was trying to retreive my hens from a neighbours garden (they freaked out when my husband went to let them out as they had only been used to me ) 
I find a bath with bedtime baby bath (camomile/lavender) always sends her to sleep. Also not having it too quite, as soon as there is no noise they wake. Lots of fresh air. Sorry I don't know the age of your baby but we found the lie back chairs that vibrate were really good.
Get someone else to do your chores so you can sleep while baby does. ( yeah I know - if only!!!)
Good luck, my 2 year old is currently running round the room playing a mad game of fetch with the dog with no signs of her going to sleep anytime soon! 2hrs sleep after working a night shift last night I am not quite sure how I am still going  
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night all
I know I will be up at 5.30 at best. Oh and she is 3 and a half......sorry to depress
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AnnaD
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Good to hear you had a nice home birth Rexy, all these positive comments on them just make me feel more cofident about it
Although I can't imagine chasing chickens so soon afterwards!
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Chez
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I was washed, dressed and ready to go home two hours after my 36 hour labour with Leo. It's possible. Not necessarily wise, though .
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| Chez wrote: | | I was washed, dressed and ready to go home two hours after my 36 hour labour with Leo. It's possible. Not necessarily wise, though . |
Chez's experience had certainly inspired me when planning Alexander's arrival. Things didn't quite go as planned though and while I may have wanted to go home, my legs didn't work for several hours thanks to the spinal block.
Getting excited Anna? Your baby must be due soon, if you're not already overdue?
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| Tay wrote: | | Chez wrote: | | I was washed, dressed and ready to go home two hours after my 36 hour labour with Leo. It's possible. Not necessarily wise, though . |
Chez's experience had certainly inspired me when planning Alexander's arrival. Things didn't quite go as planned though and while I may have wanted to go home, my legs didn't work for several hours thanks to the spinal block.
Getting excited Anna? Your baby must be due soon, if you're not already overdue? |
She's due on Friday, and I'm getting really excited. I feel really prepared and ready now too which is good
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mihto
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Good luck, Anna. We will keep an eye on your posts.
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Tay
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Good luck indeed. It is an exciting time, although it can be frustrating when your due date comes and goes, but the baby stays put.
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AnnaD
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Thank you! I think we might experiment with natural induction methods from next Friday. So lots of curry for me! Barry's also been reading up a lot on being a birth partner and knows a few accupressure points
I'm hoping that since I have no worries and feel prepared, she won't be too late.
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Effie
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How exciting Anna
Homebirths are marvellous! I had one, albeit entirely unintended, t'was was still enjoyable though.
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