James
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what do you think of karmic then?How's it going for you on 9.10?
I'm having the occasional startup problem. It sometimes freezes.
The startup time certainly isnt faster, as claimed. Close down is extremely fast indeed.
They've done good stuff making xubuntu look & feel a bit more glossy, and everyting seems to work "out of the box", which is good.
I've not found Ubuntu One yet- does that just ship with ubuntu or xubutu also?
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vegplot
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No idea I'm using Windows 7 
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jema
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I have created the CD, but need to find the time to install it. I'm pretty snowed under currently but I'm hoping that I may be able to multitask.
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Chez
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I was waiting to see what other people thought about it before I updated, so I will be watching this thread with interest!
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vegplot
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I'll evaluating the server version as soon as I can.
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Emyr
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Re: what do you think of karmic then? | James wrote: | I'm having the occasional startup problem. It sometimes freezes.
The startup time certainly isnt faster, as claimed. Close down is extremely fast indeed. |
Upgrade or clean install?
Been using 9.10 for over a month just fine...
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oldish chris
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I "upgraded" on Sunday morning. Everything went very smoothly.
Previously, I had had a couple of problems to do with hardware compatibility with 9.04. They've been sorted - everything works fine.
Boot-up time doesn't seem to be significantly improved.
The only thing missing a message popping up every time you start the machine informing you that you only have 57 days to buy a virus checker 
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jema
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amd hardware drivers are very buggy on my new system 
I am also totally failing to find the system name for sharing (well that's not true I can look in /etc/hosts) but I'm playing non techy... are found it under places/network 
On the plus side the boot is fast, I have using the standard drivers got a twin monitor setup working with less problem that before and I have sound. It's the sort of areas you take for granted under windows...
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vegplot
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It's not getting a good press unfortunately.
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Emyr
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I guess "the press" is still evaluating it as a Windows replacement.
If they considered value for money, they could ignore some of the problems caused by ignorant hardware manufacturers.
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vegplot
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| Emyr wrote: | I guess "the press" is still evaluating it as a Windows replacement.
If they considered value for money, they could ignore some of the problems caused by ignorant hardware manufacturers. |
Serious problems with 1:5 users who are upgrading from the previous version. Things like not recognising hard drive and screen driver issues. Reported on The Register.
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jema
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I'm having to fight to get my Epson CX11 printer working, the drivers are not there by default, when you install them is is expecting a script to be in /usr/bin and not where it gets installed and then after all that whilst it can see the printer even seeing the toner levels it is still not printing
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Mary-Jane
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 Oh Lordy...I've wandered into that parallel universe again...
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vegplot
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| Mary-Jane wrote: | | Oh Lordy...I've wandered into that parallel universe again... |
Speak legal talk and have us all baffled.
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jema
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On the 64bit version there is not even a readily installable flash player.
I am going to cut losses and see if 32 bit works better.
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Emyr
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Yes there is, I'm using it. Install the ubuntu-restricted-extras package and you'll get Sun Java and some useful codecs too.
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oldish chris
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| Emyr wrote: | | Yes there is, I'm using it. Install the ubuntu-restricted-extras package and you'll get Sun Java and some useful codecs too. |
I'm under the impression that Linux Mint is basically Ubuntu with the bits they should have put in if they weren't so picky about free but closed source stuff. Technobabble like MP3 codecs goes through my brain.
Opinions/corrections would be most welcome, (I'm here to learn).
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jema
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I'm afraid I see that as a techy answer. You can't just download flashplayer, you have to twiddle with the package manager.
Incidently we now have the Software Centre and the synaptics package manager that do similar tasks but differently and confusingly. I did try adding a source to the software centre and it gave no feedback at all and did not add the package I was after. I later found the package in synaptics
32bit version has the same restricted graphic driver bugs. Visual effects really screw things up, without visual effects you can only drag windows part of the way over the righthand monitor 
Printing still fails silently 
Of course I have and can fought through such issues before, but the issue here is what would the average user be able to do?
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Barefoot Andrew
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Hmm, think I'll stick to 8.10 for now.
A.
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jema
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| Barefoot Andrew wrote: | Hmm, think I'll stick to 8.10 for now.
A. |
8.10 is still what I'm working with as it is workable. I would never risk an upgrade. Luckily I bought another Dell earlier in the year to play XenServer on, now I am XenServering live, that box is spare to play with 
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Chez
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I am downloading the upgrade packages now. If I don't come back up, you'll know what happened ...
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James
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Re: what do you think of karmic then? | Emyr wrote: | | Upgrade or clean install?... |
Upgrade (from a really slick 9.04 where I'd got everything "just so")
My start-up problems appear to be dissappearing. The last few times I've booted up, it's managed to go through to the login manager (eventually..). I think something's still no correct, as I'm seeing the phrase "booting from HD (0,4)" two or even three times, so I think its getting to a certain point, failing and re-trying. I'm going to go into grub and change the start-up to a terminal screen to see what's happening.
Becuase of all this, my startup is slower thant it was on 9.04. Close down, however, is in the blink of an eye...very fast indeed.
They've done stuff to make Xubuntu look and feel slicker, and much of it has worked (imo). It does feel a little bit more polished. How much of it is neccessary, I'm not sure.
I cant find find the Software centre: I think this has been left out of Xubuntu, as has Ubuntu One. (these where two things I was interested in fiddling with).
On the plus side, the sound is much better (sound has been a consant battle on my Toshiba Sattellite Pro laptop) and for the first time I've got a weather forcast applet that actually works, which in a nerdy kind of way I really like.
All in all, is it worth upgrading?...I'm undecided. Its not the great leap forward that was predicted, and I'm a little worried by the unstable boot proccess, but its not going to make me revert back.
If I hadnt upgraded however, I'd leave it for couple of months to allow some problems to be ironed out.
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Chez
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I'm working okay. It's telling me that it has 'disk mounting errors' on boot, but everything is working okay and the sound is MUCH better. I need to twiddle with things though, as it's done stuff like munged my screen resolution.
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12Bore
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As previously posted, 9.1 installed, up and running. Noticeably quicker and slicker than 9.04. (Happy Bunny emoticon please). 
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Emyr
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6.06 is still supported for servers...
(although it makes it a PITA to get a Grails app running on Apache Tomcat, especially on an underpowered virtual server!)
8.04 is a Long Term Support/LTS version, so if you stick with that you'll get security and stability for a couple more years, at the expense of shiny new features. I think next April's version is meant to be an LTS too, the retooled repositories should be available around now for the masochists.
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James
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| Chez wrote: | | I'm working okay. It's telling me that it has 'disk mounting errors' on boot |
yep, thats what I was getting.
Unfortunatly, my computer no longer boots succesfully and I'm presently using a live cd of 9.04 to write this. I'll have to sacrifice the better sound and weather forcast applet for a stable system which actually works on my system .
From where I'm sitting, 9.10 needs a bit more work. Good, but not that good.
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jema
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Well most people would call that a disaster
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